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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #36 on: Monday 16 August 10 08:14 BST (UK) »
Morning all,

Ann states on her second post on the thread (I haven't worked out how to do quotes yet)  that John Henry Wood was "born in Heckmondwyke Dewsbury in about 1866, I got that from the 1911 census". However, the John Henry Wood in that census, born Heckmondwyke Dewsbury, living with the correct family so we know he's the right one, is aged 38. I think if thats all Ann is going off, she must have just miscalculated the dates.  I agree, if Ann has his marriage certs they should also help confirm his age.
The only other definite sighting we have of him is in 1901 census, down as Henry Wood, but living with the right family so we know he's the right one, and is aged 29.
So its possible we are looking for the birth of a John Henry Wood, a John Wood, or a Henry Wood. Or, assuming that the marriage of James Wood to Hannah Sykes is the right one, perhaps he was born just before the 1871 marriage and then we are looking for a John Henry Sykes, a John Sykes or a Henry Sykes.
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« Reply #37 on: Monday 16 August 10 08:51 BST (UK) »
Last evening, I thought, as you do, I'll leave this one- there are good searchers there and I'm still not sure  ::) However, this morning- a different day, I'm back looking- thanks to the recent posts. ;D

Other questions for Ann when she comes back- do the witnesses at the marriages help at all?
What is the occupation of James the father? Is it consistent on both John H's certificates?
What is John H's address on his marriage to Charlotte?
(He may have been invented or misnamed).
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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #38 on: Monday 16 August 10 11:22 BST (UK) »
There is plain Henry Wood born Dewsbury 1872  who didn't die at birth year.

I'll see what turn up at the library as they have Dewsbury Pr's also Nonconformist.

We want PR info  of James Wood Hannah Syke marriage 1871 for details

James Wood marriage 1848 to which Mary being two in Gro

John Henry Wood marriages 1893 & 1916

 John (H)enry Births/bapts if any

Henry Wood bapt 1872 or 1873

Ill get back in a week or so  ;)  if Ann does not return or you nice people don't find something relevant?

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« Reply #39 on: Monday 16 August 10 11:47 BST (UK) »
Quote;- The John Hey birth doesn't appear to be the correct one as it appears he died.

Deaths Jun 1875
WOOD    John Hey    *    Dewsbury    9b   417  :o

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Ho! The Shame  :(

How Stupid of me!  :-[    :-\
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« Reply #40 on: Monday 16 August 10 12:01 BST (UK) »
1901 census  RG13/ Piece 4396/ Folio 76/ Page: 26.   Address: 7, Vine St, Masborough.

Allan Cocking     60
Mary Cocking    62
Allan Cocking    24
Joseph Cocking    17
Hannah Wood    50,  general servant domestic, born Batley Carr.

Allan Cocking is the father of Charlotte, John Henry Wood's wife.

Hannah is still living with the Cocking's in 1911 where her age is stated as 66.

So, the question is:  Is Hannah Wood above, John Henry's mother?  She may, or may not be.  Are these census returns where Ann has got her info?








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« Reply #41 on: Monday 16 August 10 12:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Libby

Nice find  ;) that confirms Hannah Skyes Marriage to James at Birstall 1871

Right we need this marriage  to find James's Birth details of if any -so with John Henry being Hannah's son birth Circa 1872/3 just after this  marriage event! its fair to say John Henry would be born around Birstall or Batley car as they state Dewsbury as their birth place. This could bring in Leeds (Morley) Wakefield (Tingsley) Bradford (Birkenshaw) and Halifax (Hartshead- Brighouse) also Mirfield- Ravensthorpe and Thornhill.
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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #42 on: Monday 16 August 10 14:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Dob's,

Yes, finding that marriage would be great, but as it's a second marriage for both they may not have wed in church.

I think I've read somewhere that Ann has the marriage cert, and it says Hannah was a widow, in which case it should also give her birth surname.  Mind you I admit I'm a little confused with it all, so maybe she doesn't have the cert.  Where's Ann?  Ann, we need you  :)

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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #43 on: Monday 16 August 10 14:54 BST (UK) »
I have received a pm from Ann, have advised her to keep the details on here.

hi just found james wood mc to hannah sykes he says he was 41 she sayes she was 31  he was a widower  his job iron moulder his dad a cordwainer  hannah sayes she was living at staincliff  batly .her dad was joseph  and he was a engine tendar  the wittness were richard goodall and james roberts  they got wed 26 may 1871 at the parish of birstall  james was living at heckmonwike  dewsbury I have james daughter katy orett bc  and in 1858 he was still a iron moulder . in 1911 john henry wood was living i masborough eotherham . when james got wed he should have been abt 45  i found a hannah sykes in 1871 living staincliff batly age 23  regards ann



Ann sent me the details of the marriage in a pm Friday, the last time she was online checking her profile.

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Mallinson- Lepton, Huddersfield
Walker, Smith, Slater, Blacker - Farnley Tyas, Huddersfield
Claybourne/Clayburn - Norton Doncaster
Birkenshaw/Birkinshaw - Doncaster
Hall - Skelbrooke, Doncaster
Bisby - Campsall, Doncaster
Hemsworth - Doncaster

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« Reply #44 on: Monday 16 August 10 15:48 BST (UK) »
Do you know, I think Ann has all this info and reall ujust wants to find J H's birth  ;)

1871 RG10; Piece: 4585; Folio: 24; Page: 2

Hannah Sykes 23 yrs b Batley Carr - is a general servant in Batley -with a family called Iveson/Ineson - he comes from Heckmondwike!
Marriage of Hannah and James Wood -June quarter 1871 Dewsbury

so if this is the right James Wood and JH was born 1872 ish= then Hannah is likely to be mum.
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