huddersfield family history society

[Christine in Portugal]

Its like a itch you can't quite reach.

 

Christine

[WolfieSmith]

This could be John in 1891.

Clough Rd, Masbrough, Rotherham.
Hannah Wood, head, wid, 35, b. Dewsbury,
John H. Wood, son, s, 19, Brick Maker, b. Dewsbury.
Henry Sharpe, lodger, s, 42, General Labourer, b. Ivison
RG12/3849/94/22

Can't see them in 1881.

Ann's other post "Wood family Masbrough Rotherham" gives further info on the family. Not sure how to post a link to it. Has Johns father, James Wood and first wife Mary Jepson, living in Masbrough in 1851, Conisborough 1861.
Looks like John Henry was just born a bit later than Ann thought, his marriage cert should confirm.

Alan.

[dobfarm]

If anyone wants a key to this Pandora's box key search

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,458827.msg3198199.html#msg3198199

My Granddad Herbert Tidmarsh (Titmarsh) born 1867 Bolsover Derbyshire birth was never found but is bapt Jan 1868 In Wales in Yorkshire. That took me years to find and work out. Wales was a mining village 2 miles past the Derbyshire border in South Yorkshire. His Dad Samuel Tidmarsh was born in Balsall Temple Warwickshire 1844 Samuel TITmarsh moved to Derbyshire to his sister to find work. The surname was Tidmarsh-Titmarsh and the one that was'nt enough what really threw us was Lidmarsh in the census. If thats not enough I found Sams Dad by accident after years of looking as I forgot to put the R in Tidmarsh in IGI-TIDMASH and there was Thomas Tidmash also TITmash born 1805 Atherstone Warwick as he said in the 1841c in Balsall Born Atherstone.

I know first hand how valuable this info seeking is.

So Ann! keep looking as Surnames so change.

Good Luck

Dave

[heywood]

Hi Dave,

I had read that yesterday but I am still not clear where John and Hannah come into this. 

Is Kate Oretta Wood really the ancestor and John H a side branch in the tree or is John H the ancestor and does Ann know from his marriage cert. that he is the son of James?

I'm feeling a bit confused and inadequate 

heywood

PS - that looks good Alan re Hannah and John H 

[dobfarm]

Hi Hey,

I'm transcribing Kirhheaton 1600- 1641 BTs for our Library as the Church pr 1653 are lost. I was putting Hewy down as Tolson Ms 517 had done also a 1700's transcribe of these BT's at Leeds on flim for years  1600 to 1616 also Hewy- I just didn't seem right and I checked the actual original at Borthwick York -It was linked  Henry on loads of Surnames as Hewy in the transcriptions of both. It had to be Henry after the Kings them years. It was.

Thing is was this mistranscribed Heckmonwicke West Yorkshire (Now)of birth place in Rotherham census that caused confusion 1911c is the key too all this. as all the other info is Rotherham area.

John Henry Wood  is Ann's Husbands Granddad first ancestor to work back from.

Dave

[heywood]

John Henry Wood  is Ann's Husbands Granddad first ancestor to work back from.

Dave

I'm with that bit  However, she said 1866 and we found him 1873 (ish) so that was hurdle number 1.
My concern is, that because we are who we are and like to solve these matters, we are looking for John H when Ann is looking for a birth/baptism.
Does she have all other details?
Hence, my confusion re John Henry's parentage.

heywood

[dobfarm]

Hi Hey again

As you say we like to help solve these hard requests.

The way Ann has been putting out request for help on the free BDM's with the yellow envolopes also on here! maybe leave this thread an go on to the other thread link above or reopen it.

Dave

[heywood]

Hi Dave,

I've just cross referenced and put a little note on the other one .

 

[WolfieSmith]

Some further info, from Googling Anns posts on another forum,

Ann has both of John Henry Wood marriage certs, first to Charlotte Cocking, children Mary Ann, Harold, Frank, John and William. Charlotte died aged 41. Also second marriage to Rose Thorpe in 1916. Some of the children from this marriage are still alive. On both marriage certs his father is James, believes his mother was Hannah.

So it looks like we have the right John in 1911 and 1901 census with Charlotte and family. Its the "born in 1866" that is the red herring, as from all the census info he was born 1871-1873. Looks like the 1891 census is the right one also.

I think Ann was after help in both her posts on here in identifying John Henry's birth in Dewsbury in 1866-1870, but really she needs to be looking at 1871-1873. Would help if we could find them in 1881 as well. Ann also already a marriage cert for James Wood (widower) to Hannah Sykes in 1871, so thats probably the right one. Kate Oretta Wood is a bit of red herring, a probable half sister of John Henry, from James Wood first marriage.

Alan.