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« Reply #81 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 10:57 BST (UK) »
Good morning folks  ;D

I looked at that entry last evening and then just gave up- dejected  :'(
Mainly because, I think and I can't make Ann do anything, I know, but I just wish you (Ann) would give the later birthdate a try and ask for a search and not limit to Dewsbury either.
If nothing turns up- then fair enough but at the moment there is no sign of John H in 1871 but both Hannah and James are there separately and James' other two children are also there without a Wood/Sykes (apparently).
However- now that is off my chest- back to 1871.

The entries seem to indicate that there are three differfent households.
At Ann (Charlesworth) there is //.
Then comes the Drew brothers //.
Then comes George and Kate //.
Then a Hargraves family in the local pub.

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« Reply #82 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 10:59 BST (UK) »
PS - although George does have 'married' status - the actual census does look as though there could be 'un' squashed in the previous column, thus making him 'unmarried', together  with 'Son in law' which incidentally is written above 'Head' which has been crossed through  ::)
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« Reply #83 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 14:33 BST (UK) »
PS - although George does have 'married' status - the actual census does look as though there could be 'un' squashed in the previous column, thus making him 'unmarried', together  with 'Son in law' which incidentally is written above 'Head' which has been crossed through  ::)

Hi Hey,

 With you on trying to make sense of census and Ann should re try a 3 year search 1871-1873 Dewsbury and Rotherham at her discretion.

Just a thought! George still maybe married status (unlikely though) but Kate could have been his wife at 14 then. OK! If George and Kate Wood are not in the same abode or house as separate entities  Charlesworth family// Drew Brother// George Wood son in law (Of who) and (Kate Wood daughter of who).

Your last post you say both James wood and Hannah Sykes lived in Heckmondwike 1871! I have seen your reply census 1871c with Hannah but NOT seen where James Wood was in 1871c

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« Reply #84 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 14:45 BST (UK) »
I never mentioned Heckmondwike in 1871  ;D

This is what I think anyway and have already posted:

1871 RG10; Piece: 4585; Folio: 24; Page: 2
Hannah Sykes b 1848 Batley Carr is a servant in Batley

1871 RG10; Piece: 4564; Folio: 140; Page: 29
James Wood b 1831 widower iron moulder b Rotherham is a lodger in Leeds

I think Libby posted this possibility way back. ;)

So they are not together but do get married within a couple of months
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« Reply #85 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 15:06 BST (UK) »
Good morning folks  ;D

I looked at that entry last evening and then just gave up- dejected  :'(
Mainly because, I think and I can't make Ann do anything, I know, but I just wish you (Ann) would give the later birthdate a try and ask for a search and not limit to Dewsbury either.
If nothing turns up- then fair enough but at the moment there is no sign of John H in 1871 but both Hannah and James are there separately and James' other two children are also there without a Wood/Sykes (apparently).
However- now that is off my chest- back to 1871.

The entries seem to indicate that there are three differfent households.
At Ann (Charlesworth) there is //.
Then comes the Drew brothers //.
Then comes George and Kate //.
Then a Hargraves family in the local pub.

heywood


OK you didn't say Heckmondwicke 1871c  but its Heckmondwicke where Kate and George are 1871 c are also Staincliffe Batley carr and Heckmondwicke near as one area
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« Reply #86 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 15:13 BST (UK) »
I never mentioned Heckmondwike in 1871  ;D

This is what I think anyway and have already posted:

1871 RG10; Piece: 4585; Folio: 24; Page: 2
Hannah Sykes b 1848 Batley Carr is a servant in Batley

1871 RG10; Piece: 4564; Folio: 140; Page: 29
James Wood b 1831 widower iron moulder b Rotherham is a lodger in Leeds

I think Libby posted this possibility way back. ;)

So they are not together but do get married within a couple of months

Hi

With you now! James is Near in Leeds

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« Reply #87 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 15:22 BST (UK) »
Mary Dead 1871
George and Kate alive 1871
James in Leeds not married widower
Hannah Sykes is in Batley Spinster

John Henry Where? or not born

Married in 28 May 1871 Birstall.

Hannah Sykes dad was an Engine Tender and The Morley Tunnel Batley to Morley Leeds. They would need steel desperately ? in industry. Kirkstall Leeds
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« Reply #88 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 15:29 BST (UK) »
I never mentioned Heckmondwike in 1871  ;D

This is what I think anyway and have already posted:

1871 RG10; Piece: 4585; Folio: 24; Page: 2
Hannah Sykes b 1848 Batley Carr is a servant in Batley

1871 RG10; Piece: 4564; Folio: 140; Page: 29
James Wood b 1831 widower iron moulder b Rotherham is a lodger in Leeds

I think Libby posted this possibility way back. ;)



So they are not together but do get married within a couple of months

Can you give detail of area of Leeds District where James was lodging Emuneration district and street. (Ie Morley or Gildersome -Kirkstall etc)

http://mauriceboddy.org.uk/WoodY.htm

http://www.steamindex.com/manlocos/kitsons.htm

http://www.secretleeds.com/forum/Messages.aspx?ThreadID=309&StartAtMessage=25

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morley_Tunnel
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« Reply #89 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 16:03 BST (UK) »
Hi All

While I'm on a runner though wise!

Then no abode of John Henry infant in the 1871c with any direct known relo's also Let assume Hannah is up the swaney spout
with John Henry in 1871 at Batley end (Daddy a Engine tender on the  railway) of Morley Railway Tunnel and James is in some foundry at the other end in Leeds
 prob Kirkstall or Elland Road (Now football ground now) Airdale foundry near the rail line. Thus where would John Henry be born.

http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/documents/archives/Collections%20Guide%207.pdf

http://www.lostrailwayswestyorkshire.co.uk/Birstall%20Goods.htm    see map

http://www.lostrailwayswestyorkshire.co.uk/index.htm           Explore this website (Interesting maps)

Put 'Dewsbury railways' in Google search


Kate b 1858 is back in Rotherham 1881 as either



Marriages Mar 1881   
AIZLEWOOD  Arthur    Rotherham  9c 625   

Wood  Kate     Rotherham  9c 625   


1881c
Arthur AIZLEWOOD   Head     22   Rotherham, York, England   Filer Of Palisades (W Smith)     
 Kate AIZLEWOOD   Wife     25   Swinton, York, England   Telegraphist (C S)     
 Eliza AIZLEWOOD   Sister   UM   24   Rotherham, York, England   General Domestic Servant     
1 Alma Road Rotherham

or

George WOOD   Head     30   Rotherham, Lancashire, England   Iron Moulder     
 Mary A. WOOD   Wife    29   Heckmondwike, York, England       
 Edward E. WOOD   Son        7   Heckmondwike, York, England   Scholar     
 Annie L. WOOD   Daur        5   Heckmondwike, York, England   Scholar     
 Florence WOOD   Daur         2   Heckmondwike, York, England       
Kate G. WOOD   Relative   U    24   Rotherham   Woollen Bl Weaver     
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