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Charles Hazell, died Gravesend, 1981
« on: Monday 09 August 10 15:35 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me (perhaps via a local paper obit) whether Charles Hazell (born 4 Dec 1913), whose death was registered at Gravesend in Oct-Dec 1981, was originally from South Wales? And earned a crust before the war as a professional boxer?

    Keeping my fingers firmly crossed  ;)

      Gareth
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Re: Charles Hazell, died Gravesend, 1981
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 20:31 BST (UK) »
Having obtained his birth cert and confirmed that my Charlie was indeed born on 4/12/1913, I think, given the rarity of the name, I can assume it is indeed the ex-boxer from Pontypridd who died in Gravesend in 1981.

I would still love to know how he ended up in Kent, if anyone out there can help?

   Gareth
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Re: Charles Hazell, died Gravesend, 1981
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 August 10 00:28 BST (UK) »
There is a Charles Hazell marriage in 1937 in Kent
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Re: Charles Hazell, died Gravesend, 1981
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 August 10 15:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Carole. The bride was a Rose L Carter and the marriage was registered at Dartford, which is not too far from Gravesend. But I can't find Rose's death (at least not in that area) so I can't really assume it's my Charlie.

I've written to the Dartford paper to ask if they can check their obits/death notices and/or publish a plea for info, but no response yet.
Scott, Dowdeswell (Merthyr Tydfil), Jones (Loughor and Merthyr Vale), Roberts (Nelson), Prichard (Collenna and Cefn Fforest); Evan Roberts (Corwen and Amlwch); Scott (Pentre); Scott (Ancrum); Thomas (Pantywaun and Bedlinog); Morgan Jones (Ystradfellte); Bowen (Loughor); Jenkins (Bridgend); Thomas Dowdeswell (b. Gloucester, 1829).

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Re: Charles Hazell, died Gravesend, 1981
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 August 10 16:44 BST (UK) »
I did see a Rose Louise/Louisa HAZELL death registration (1993 and Gravesend I think - it was yesterday when I looked - born 1914 the same as a Rose Louisa CARTER in the birth indexes but nothing to say either way about any of it).  You could try looking for the marriage in the online parish registers http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/ - not all the Dartford district is there nor will it help if it was a registry office/non-conformist ceremony but certainly worth a look.

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I've written to the Dartford paper to ask if they can check their obits/death notices and/or publish a plea for info, but no response yet.

I would suggest libraries are your best bet for obituaries - Dartford or Gravesend depending upon where he lived - the GRO registration districts have changed over the years http://kent.gov.uk/LibrariespublicUI/ - they will do up to 20 minutes I think for free which probably won't be long enough without an exact death date - on reflection, it may have been more useful to get the death cert. to get an exact date and place of death plus the birth details ::)

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Re: Charles Hazell, died Gravesend, 1981
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 August 10 17:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info - Rose actually died in Bexley, it appears -  and the links, Casalguidi. I've just tried the parish registers (I wish we had some of the Welsh ones online), but with no joy with the marriage. And there are no burials in the Gravesend ones, so I couldn't go down that road for an exact death date.

The reason I went for the birth cert was to confirm that it was indeed my Charlie Hazell. I'll give the Dartford paper a few days to see if they respond - I only emailed them yesterday - and if there's nothing I might go for the death cert.

  Thanks again,
     Gareth



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Re: Charles Hazell, died Gravesend, 1981
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 August 10 09:54 BST (UK) »
hi, um just been looking for charlie hazell to as he was my mum's uncle. looking at this, about him boxing and being in ponty & moving to kent we think this could be him, he ended up in Kent to be near his sister, the married a woman from there, i tried to email you but dont know how to. if you can email me my mum can give you more information if your still looking, she would love to speak to you. im assuming that you are family too? :)  

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Re: Charles Hazell, died Gravesend, 1981
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 August 10 10:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Vicky,
   Good to hear from you. Welcome to Rootschat.
   I will send you a PM (personal message) - it will show at the top of the page and you just click on it to see it - then you can reply the same way. That will avoid boring the general RC members and also enable us to exchange some info which perhaps you might not want to put on a public forum.
   Regards, Gareth
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Re: Charles Hazell, died Gravesend, 1981
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 August 10 10:44 BST (UK) »
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