Garston, Lancashire

[Mr. Tibbs]

Hello Allan
I would love a photo but I don't have that facility.  I'll look on Google Earth instead-thank you

William was at Island Road with his wife, nine children and a servant/housekeeper.  The youngest child was born in Garston in 1892.  I don't know whether William R was a really good Metallurgical engineer.  The family background is farming and haulage contracting although nearby Newcastle was the hub of  mining and engineering worldwide with the coming of the railways-leaders like George Stephenson and Lord Armstrong.  William R's career seems quite chequered from 1871 to 1881.  Wonder how he got from being a clerk to being a mechanical engineer...why did he go to Ipswich...was he an engineer in Newcastle before he married...was he forced to marry (William, the first child was born in 1871) and his career floundered?  Now, my imagination is taking over - fatal!
Regards Pat

[Mr. Tibbs]

Oh no...Ann I haven't heard of the Blacksheep Index before...does this mean William R went bankrupt?  I know William was married in Leeds in 1906 and he was travelling abroad between 1906 and 1908 when he died in India (but I don't know how often).  I assumed he was on an engineering contract.  I wonder if his oldest son William was also named Reveley although he began his working life as a brass and iron founder.  I can discover very little about him yet quite a lot about his other brothers.  I suspect he may have died early in Fulham.  Thank you for your help
Pat

[Mr. Tibbs]

Ainslie-much appreciated: nothing like local knowledge to extract the correct information.
Pat with thanks

[garstonite]

Hello Allan
I would love a photo but I don't have that facility.  I'll look on Google Earth instead-thank you

William was at Island Road with his wife, nine children and a servant/housekeeper.  The youngest child was born in Garston in 1892.  I don't know whether William R was a really good Metallurgical engineer.  The family background is farming and haulage contracting although nearby Newcastle was the hub of  mining and engineering worldwide with the coming of the railways-leaders like George Stephenson and Lord Armstrong.  William R's career seems quite chequered from 1871 to 1881.  Wonder how he got from being a clerk to being a mechanical engineer...why did he go to Ipswich...was he an engineer in Newcastle before he married...was he forced to marry (William, the first child was born in 1871) and his career floundered?  Now, my imagination is taking over - fatal!
Regards Pat

So Pat...did any of the 9 children stay in Garston when William went to Leeds to re-marry ? the eldest would have been 35 ?....could you list the childrens names and we can see if any are in Garston in the 1911 census ?....allan ADDED...ISABEL TENCH B sep qtr 1892 looks like a Garston birth...is she in your tree Pat ?

[Mr. Tibbs]

Here we are, Allan 
1891 census:
William Reveley born Winlaton 1848
Margaret (nee KELLET) born Sherburn Hill 1850, his wife
Children:
William born Hetton le Hole 1871 (brass and iron founder)
Elizabeth Ann born Stockton on Tees 1874 (dressmaker's apprentice)
Kate born North Ormesby 1875 (milliner's apprentice)
John Anthony born North Ormesby 1877 (scholar)
Richard born Mansfield 1878
George Thomas Kellet born Mansfield 1880
James Renwick born Mansfield 1882
Alfred Firth born Ipswich 1884
Henry Byng born Ipswich 1886
About 1908 Kate, Richard and James left for Canada; George and Alfred to South Africa-George ended up in Australia and died in WW1; Elizabeth is supposed to have married the town clerk of Winchester (no name)
Pat

[garstonite]

Hiya Pat...it would seem that Henry Byng Tench stayed around the North West ...he married in Prestwich ,Manchester in 1906
He married Violet Binns ...they had a son in Portsmouth in 1913  ...probably had children from 1906 to 1911 as well....Mothers Maiden name appears from sep qtr 1911 on freebmd....allan

[Ringoroses]

why did he go to Ipswich

Why does anyone go to Ipswich...?    (I can say that, I lived there for several years myself!  ).


The only 'bridge' I can think of in the area contemporary with the period is the viaduct that runs over Spring Road.


( don't know exactly when it was built but according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felixstowe_Branch_Line

The original line ran from Westerfield railway station over Spring Road viaduct (the lines most impressive civil engineering structure) into Derby Road railway station (Ipswich) station. Heading south east from Ipswich it then called at Orwell railway station built primarily to serve the home of the lines builder Colonel George Tomline and then Trimley railway station (which only opened in 1891).

So it was within the timeframe.

http://www.milepost91.co.uk/47370-leaves-ipswich/
(Scroll down to where it says 8Z47 rumbles across Spring Road Viaduct in Ipswich, between Westerfield and Derby Road.)

It might be worthwile contacting a local history group (or railway enthusiast group!) to see if they know who built it).

[Ringoroses]

Addendum,

Just remembered something I'd tried so hard to put out my mind  - Ipswich transport museum which houses a lot of information re local transport engineering companies, such as Ransomes (the most well known one ).

http://www.ipswichtransportmuseum.co.uk/eng.htm

They have contacts to engineering historians who may be able to help.

[Mr. Tibbs]

Thanks again, Allan Found the marriage and the son but not on free bmd - was I doing something wrong?
Pat