John Atlantic Stephenson

[ALTZA53]

Hi Bellam1 & Cathy,

I have only just noted your entries so apologies.

Bellam1 welcome and I see your connection through Elizabeth Gordon Stephenson the daughter of Henry Layton Stephenson and neice of JAS and sister of Henry Layton Stephenson(Jnr) and the subsequent Marriage of her daughter Annie Beana Mooar to William Leeson.

Actually both Jon and I had previously thought as you re the possibility of  William b1763 & Son William (Jun)b 1797 being the father and brother of our John (b abt 1795), by virtue of the poet/song writer/writer connection. But we were unable to prove further as is the case with the Romaldkirk Stephenson/Layton theory also.

Cheers

Ian

[ALTZA53]

Hi All,

Following on from Jon's advice that William Brumwell was a sea Captain I have just found a reference "Heirs At Law 1845-1846 From Trewman's Exeter Flying Post" that states the following:

The following are Extracts from the Register for Devon and Cornwall, &c.
Thursday, October 2, 1845; Issue 4162
 Gale Document No. Y3200675947
BRUMWELL, John and William, entered the Merchant Service in 1835, who are brothers of Isabella Buckball, Walcot, Somerset, deceased, wanted.


Isabella Buckoll (nee Brumwell) is from the 1st marriage William Brumwell & Susannah Wilkinson and is John & William's half sister. She died 1842.

This entry is interesting as it shows John still being alive 1835 when he and William both went to sea.

I don't know if any records viewable regarding any contact with brothers and payments made re above.

Cheers

Ian

[jon541]

Ian,

You have a great knack for finding these references - well done again.  The notifications system on Rootschat doesn't seem to be consistently working otherwise I would have seen your post earlier (and the other recent posts from Bellam1 and Cathy which I now see that I also missed).
I tracked down the reference that you found in the Exeter Flying Post and realized that it was in turn an extract made from the London Gazette a couple of years earlier.  Here is the original advertisement:

If John Brumwell and William Brumwell, who entered the merchant service as seamen, and went to sea in or about the year 1835, and who are the brothers and next of kin of Isabella Buckhall, widow, late of the parish of Walcot, in the county of Somerset, deceased, will apply at the office of Messrs. Cruttwell and Nicholson, 10, Godliman-street, Doctors’-commons, they may hear of something to their advantage. [The London Gazette, 27 September 1842,  Issue 20145, p2610]

Clearly Isabella left her half-brother’s male offspring some money in her will.  I assume John Brumwell must have died between 1835 and 1848 because I don't remember there being any reference to him in the 1848 admon of father William's will which you shared.  The other piece of info to be gleaned from this announcement is that Richard and Isabella Buckoll had no living children in 1842 (if indeed they ever had any children). 

Regards,
Jon

[ALTZA53]

Hi Jon,

I don't know about having a knack, just luck and fact so much more information now available on internet. Good that you are able to expand on the findings by checking other sources and referencing areas I am unaware off.

Yes agree with you on the recent non advice of new posting notifications. Hopefully a short-term glitch. I now check forum occasionally, if not heard anything, just in case. 

Following on from last post re William Brumwell I have found on Ancestry a copy of his and May Frances Moses actual Marriage Bond of 18-1-1840 (Durham Diocese England , Marriage Bonds & Allegations, 1692-1900) ref DDR/EJ/MLA/1/1840/31. gives his occupation as Master Mariner. No other enlightening info though.

As he died 1854  possibly one of his last commands was that as Captain on the Ship ANN DASHWOOD which sailed from Liverpool to Sydney in 1853. An account of this voyage by a passenger Edward Dash, see the following link  http://www.dashstory.com/EdwardJournal.pdf is very interesting in detailing the horrid journey experienced by the passengers through misrepresentation of the ships conditions, under provisioning, excess passenger numbers, drunk crew (and Captain) and physical abuse and attacks etc etc.

PS I have not heard back from Anna Hankey re the request for a copy of the grave inscription photo.

[Vicki1948]

Hello .... I am new to this forum and to family research. My name is Victoria Wright and my Great Grandmother is Catherine Mary Layton Stephenson (born 1836 India Bengal) sister of John Atlantic Stephenson.  I am in New Zealand.  I am looking forward to chatting.  I believe someone in NZ has Tran scripted John Atlantic Stephenson Journal? 

[ALTZA53]

Hi Vicky Welcome,

If you refer to pages 26 & 27 under, relating to posts from Cathy (Kiwifroggy65) & Maggie you will get the background to the John Stephenson Journal of 1829 by JAS's father. Maggie transcribed and she is in the UK.

Your more direct family link is through Cathy & Maggie and therefore more appropriate that I leave further contact to them at this stage.

I am in Wellington NZ.

Cheers

Ian

[Vicki1948]

Re kiwifroggy65 I would be interested in sharing with you the information you have regarding John Atlantic Stephenson you mentioned Mignon Arnst re Woodhouse my father is Edward Victor Hastings Carr. Mignon is my fathers sister. My son has just come back from England and went to the addresses I have. It was over there that we found out about John Stephenson. 








 
 

[ALTZA53]

Hi All,

Firstly Vicki I note no response to you query above, at least online. Hopefully Maggie or Cathy has contacted you direct.

To All,  you will note on page 26 I detailed some loose ends that might be fruitful. One of these was:

On searching Ancestry UK I have found a death for a Alfred S G Stephenson for July-Sept 1915 at Tynemouth born Abt 1843. Vol10b page 279. If anyone is local and able to look up the records to see if our Alfred Septimus Stephenson (The G could be Gordon) that would be great.

I recently decided to obtain the certificate myself and this proved very worthwhile. I can confirm that the G was for Gordon. He died 24-9-1915 at 44 Percy St Tynemouth occupation being a Street Musician. Informant was a Samuel Neville at same address. It was checking this name in 1911 Census that proved so enlightening.

Residents were Alfred Gordon age 67 born Durham Heworth occ Harpist, Jane Gordon his wife age 64 occ Assisting (Vocalist as established later) and Samuel Neville as Boarder. Record also shows Alfred & Jane married for 43 years and had no children in that time.

I was able to trace Alfred & Jane further in the 1901 census same address occ's Musician & Vocalist, 1891 census in Bowes St Waterloo Morpeth, where they were Lodgers, occ's the same, 1881 census Wallace Green Berwick, where they were Boarders occ's Musician & Musicians wife.

We know previously 1871 Census staying with mother Elizabeth Gordon Stephenson under their Stephenson surnames.

Cheers
Ian

[ALTZA53]

Hi All, Especially those with a direct line to Albert Peak Stephenson b 1840.

I noted that David (posting under Buffers) who's line is through A P S. had recorded in his Family Tree Spreadsheet he shared showing APS dying Newcastle 1890 (probably a typo as had stated in forums re APS being in 1891 census). Tony Mooar's family Tree and others had death as 1909.

Records show that APS was living at home with his family in the 1891 Census. Jon had previously advised me (some years ago)that APS was showing in 1901 and 1911 censuses as an patient Gosforth Asylum Castle Ward and I did see the 1901 record which confirmed this.

Again in order to chase up some loose ends and to maintain correct records that are verified I recently ordered a copy of a Death Cert for a Albert P Stephenson who died Castle Ward 1913 age 72 (ref Vol 10B p375) to see if our APS.

That cert also arrived today and is for a Albert Peak Stephenson who died 27-6-1913 age 72 at the Newcastle City Asylum. The informant was his Daughter E J Stephenson residing 87 Hunters Rd Newcastle. (APS Daughter Elizabeth J Stephenson b 1871). Clearly our APS.

1911 census shows daughter EJS living at the address above, being that of a George Arrowsmith. She is recorded as being his Cousin and her occ as General Servant Domestic.

Cheers

Ian