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Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« Reply #198 on: Thursday 18 August 11 20:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Kathy,

As you say, the conjunction of those names is too much to be a coincidence.  The Brumells aren't really one of my research lines so I only have scant notes about them but I think I can see how your line links back to the Northumberland Brumells.

Henry Peareth Brumell (x 7 Aug 1835 Longhoughton, Northumberland) seems to have emigrated to Canada in the late 1840s or 1850s after the death of his father Hawdon Brumell (who farmed at Longhoughton) in 1845.

HPB can be seen living with his parents in the 1841 census for Littlehoughton at HO107/819 bk 18 fo 3 pg 11.  There is another HPB in the 1851 census for Morpeth, Northumberland but this is his cousin, son of  John Brumell, who was x 6 Jul 1820 at St. Peter's Liverpool.

'Your' HPB can be seen in the 1861 census for York, Toronto where he is following the Brumell family trade of chemist/druggist (the Northumberland Brumells all seen to have been lawyers, chemists or farmers). [Roll C-1108, page 7].  At this point he is still unmarried but 10 years later, he can be seen [1871, Roll C-1198, page 48, family 173] with wife Emily and among his children, a son called Henry, born c1863, who I assume is either your great or great x 2 grandfather.

The connection of your Brumells to the Peareths works as follows:

As seen above, HPB b. 1835 was the son of Hawdon Brumell and Mary Blackett (b. c1806 Berwick) who married just over the border from Northumberland, i.e. in Jedburgh, Scotland, on 23 Jan 1825 :  'Howden Brumwell [sic] of Houghton in the parish of Longhoughton, Northumberlandshire and Mary Blackett in this parish' (ref Scotlandspeople, Jedburgh OPR, Roxburghshire).

While there is a Hawdon Brumell x at Longhoughton in 1809, son of Henry Peareth Thomas Brumell, I believe your direct line ancestor (based on his rounded-down age of 55 in the 1841 census) to be the Hawdon Brumwell b 22 May 1782 and x 19 Jul 1782 at St. Nicholas, Newcastle upon Tyne ... son of Hawdon Brumell and Dorothy nee Peareth.

Hope that helps to fill in the gaps...

Regards,
Jon

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Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« Reply #199 on: Thursday 18 August 11 21:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much Jon.

Imagine how thrilling it is to leap from ggrandfather to a few generations back without the steps in between.  Now the challenge is to solidify the links  :)

Many thanks again.

Kathy

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Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« Reply #200 on: Saturday 18 February 12 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I just googled John Atlantic Stephenson and it found your entry on this website. I've registered so that I can contact you but to be honest I'm not quite sure how to go on.
I wanted to contact you as John Atlantic Stephenson's grandson Dennis Charles married my aunt Elsie and I have 12 of his water colours on my wall. Also a photograph of John Atlantic which incudes a copy of his birth certificate.
Please get in touch if I can be of any help.

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Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« Reply #201 on: Saturday 18 February 12 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, 26HC
It is a very pleasant surprise to meet yet another person connected to John Atlantic!
My great great grandmother is JAS's sister.
As you probably read in the original posts the thread began with a request from me about JAS as I had just read  and transcribed his father's journal of a voyage to India. In this he mentions  the birth of his son,mid Atlantic,in 1829. Another relation  to JAS,linked by Rootschat, has a copy of the birth certificate from the Brig Argo, commented on by him. Is this the same as yours? It says Argo Brummell as his original name!
I have found some of his paintings in the Tyne and Wear museum and the same direct relation to him sent me a copy of another. It would be lovely to see copies of more of his work! Have you seen the photo of him ' Telling a Story' at Tynemouth 1880?
Do you know anything of 'the Stephenson connection'? We have all come to a grinding halt on this. The nearest we can get is that Henry Stephenson, JAS' brother, drove one of the first Steam trains on the Madras Railway and that there may be links with Robert Stephenson.
regards
Maggie 360


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Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« Reply #202 on: Sunday 19 February 12 05:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi 26HC,

Good to hear from you and to finally get some more posts on here as been quiet for sometime.

Did a quick search and see Dennis Charles Stephenson was born 28-6-1917 son of Phillip C J Stephenson & Sarah Clement. He married Elsie Cole 7-11-1959. By your initials  and mention of Auntie Elsie I guess your link is through the Coles.

Following on from Maggies post above would be good to see what info you have re family history. Also are you aware of details of JAS's children from 1st marriage

Regards

Ian

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« Reply #203 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Dear each,
Good to hear from you both. Please find attached a photo. of JAS
( a cross between everybody's ideal Grandfather , and Santa )
And most of his water colours .
The small picture below main JAS photo. is a photo. of his
birth certificate .
I also gather he was a regular at the BRASS MAN public house
in the "Toon"
As indeed was I when serving my time in Jesmond.

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« Reply #204 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi 26HC,

Thanks for your F/u post and photo upload. You are indead  fortunate to have such a wonderful collection of JAS's watercolours and thanks very much for sharing with us. (Though a higher resolution photo would be better if available, as unable to zoom in currently).

Are you able to expand on our current knowledge of the 'Stephenson's' beyond what is in this Topic Posts todate?

Regards
Ian

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« Reply #205 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 21:11 GMT (UK) »
I echo Ian's thanks.
Amazing collection of watercolours although it's difficult to see all their beauty in the photo. How did you find the information re. The Brass Man?
He has a strong face, ( I love your description of him) and don't forget to look up the photograph of him telling a story,for sale with Artprints.
Any extra info on Stephensons gratefully received!
Regards,
Maggie

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Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« Reply #206 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

You will recall from earlier previous Posts and subsequent 'on the ground' searching by David (Buffers) and Brian, that we couldn't locate Elizabeth Gordon Stephenson's grave which we thought was at St Mary's Gateshead or possibly with John at St Mary's Heworth (his burial record being previously established). Last week (17-2-12) I did another search and located a specific burial record for her.

Gateshead East Cemetery record No 917243.12 burial date 2-2-1878.

I don't know if this is part of St Mary's graveyard or not but perhaps David or Brian might like to check this out if able. Or 26HC are you aware of any grave stone?

Ian