John Atlantic Stephenson

[ALTZA53]

Hi David,

I agree totally that John S was in Heworth Shore due to his work and that it would be associated with either  Alum, Salts, or Alkali's. This could mean he was involved in dyes, soap-making or glass-making plus a few other possibilities. I also think there is a good possibility that there would have been a family connection to the Works, given the known association with the Tyne Chemical Industry for many years before going to India in 1829.

Thomas Bramwell's Heworth Chemical Works was also involved in Dyeing, including Purples. John S wrote whilst in India re Indigo dyes. Previously Elizabeth Brumwell (nee Gordon) had on one register been referred to as Elizabeth Bramwell Brumwell.

Although I cannot find a reference at the moment I am sure I previously saw that there was a Bramwell & Stephenson Chemical Works. (Could be the fog of memory).

[Valda]

Hi

The official catalogue of the Great Exhibition 1851 lists

Bramwell, T. & Co. Heworth Chemical Works Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Manu - Crystals of prussiate of potnas of commerce. Ferrocyanide of potassium of chemists, used for dyeing blue in place of indigo


Regards

Valda

[ALTZA53]

Hi All,

Seems we have all come to a stop at the moment as regards to any new pieces of information. Certainly I have not had any further luck with my searching. Hopefully 2011 may be a further turning point.

Anyway wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Very Happy New Year (and for those of you in the UK I hope things get warmer very soon)

Kind Regards

Ian   

[Bryan Bates]

Yes it has been quiet for awhile. Coincidentally I was reviewing all the posts yesterday and writing up some notes from some of the comments.
It has been an impressive combined effort to get so much information in such a short space of time. Thanks for everyones input. There are a few alleyways to explore yet and I look forward to more postings in the New Year.
Merry Christmas.
Bryan

[Buffers]

Hello everyone. Good to know that everyone hasn't lost interest. When the arctic weather decides to return to where it belongs, we're planning a trip to Geordieland to see if we can unearth anything - Newcastle Archives, Heworth etc. We're probably going to visit Staintondale too. Have a good festive season.

Buffers

[maggie360]

Just a quick note before the rush of Christmas gets underway in earnest.
I just wanted to say a very big thank you to all of you who have made this research into John Stephenson such an interesting and eventful journey.
I hope you all have a very Happy Christmas and New Year.
Thank you to Valda  as well for her invaluable hand at crucial stages in the research.
Look forward to keeping in touch in 2011..!
Best wishes,
Maggie

[dianecon]

hi everyone i was thrilled to find all of these fantastic threads.i am doing a bit of snooping for my mother in law joy stephenson,who's gg grandfather was john atlantic stephenson.went through ancestry.com came up with all the same sensus details for the different decades etc. still cant really come up with much info about john atlantics father,john.my mother in law tells me that john atlantis mother was actually known as bessie gordon..but this bessie could also have been john atlantics grandmother as she too was elizabeth gordon.unfortunately my moter in law lives in england and hubby(daniel ggg grandson of john atlantic)and i live in ireland .we would really need to get together and pool our info.she would really be interested in john stephensons journal my mum in law says john atlantic was born on the way to calcutta to join john senior.cant wait to give her all this great info thanks to you all.

[dianecon]

hi everyone i just spoke with my mum in law ,joy stephenson ,on the phone.she is absolutely positive that john atlantics mother elizabeth was brummell as she has john atlantics original birth certificate.also the ship john senior sailed to calcutta on was called the argo brummell,perhaps it was owned by elizabeths father dr.william brummell.she also has original water colours and songs/poems by john atlantic stephenson,aswel as a picture of him.john atlantic was her great grand father.he had one son phillip.phillip had three sons one of which was denis who was my mum in laws father.unfortunately though she too is stumped with regards to john seniors birth ,birth place ,death etc.she thinks there might be a possibility married twice.hope this note has cleared up the confusion between the different brummell spellings.

[maggie360]

Hello and welcome Dianecon!
This is amazing that you have found the connection via Rootschat. As you have probably read in all the posts so far it has been a roller coaster of discovery for us all. If you would like I can email you some pages of the journal written by John Stephenson senior, including the page where he briefly describes the birth or his son, John Atlantic! He calls the ship, a brig, just The Argo, so it was very interesting to see you thought the ship was called The Argo Brummell? Also in the research so far I thought JAS has two children, Annie and Philip? I could be wrong so please let me know!
The original artwork would be fascinating to see. I wonder if you have seen the two watercolour pictures done by JAS  in the Tyne and Wear museum along with a beautiful vintage photo of JAS telling a story in the grounds of a ruin?I will get back to you in the next few days with the pages that might be of interest to you
and your mother in law.
As you probably have read, my relation to John Stephenson Senior is through my
mother who was his great great grand daughter.
Best wishes, Maggie360