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Re: INDIA: SHADWELL and INGLIS in Durgapore
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 03:46 BST (UK) »
Hi. Yes. Their parents sent the older four to Walthamstow from India (Martha or one of the other Brockway sisters may have gone out to collect them perhaps), and the two younger girls joined them after the death of their mother (Emma Shadwell nee Brockway).  It must have been quite a journey from Cherrapunji to Walthamstow, especially before the steamship service. And quite a culture shock too. These are Brockways originally from Wiltshire. Where are your Brockway ancestors from?


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Re: INDIA: SHADWELL and INGLIS in Durgapore
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 22:55 BST (UK) »
My Brockway ancestors are from Wiltshire. I believe my 4th great grandfather Hezekiah is a brother of Emma's father, William. Do you have a copy of the Walkers' "The Brockways of Wiltshire"?

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Re: INDIA: SHADWELL and INGLIS in Durgapore
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 23:30 BST (UK) »
No, I have not read the book. I will have to look on the Brockway lists that my cousin gave me - he and another Brockway relative did all the research.  Fenner Brockway was a relative.

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Re: INDIA: SHADWELL and INGLIS in Durgapore
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 26 August 10 00:38 BST (UK) »
Do you know that Emma's mother told her children she eloped with William, arriving in London hidden in a hay cart?


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Re: INDIA: SHADWELL and INGLIS in Durgapore
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 26 August 10 02:24 BST (UK) »
Hi. I am just getting Jane Shadwell straight, I think:
Jane Shadwell, daughter of John Augustus Shadwell
Married William Henry Earle (1794-1846), son of Solomon and Rose Earle, at Meerut 12 Feb 1821
She was born  Sept 5th 1805 so she was only 16 yrs old.
Children:
1  Her daughter Mary Anne was born 15 May 1822, when Jane Shadwell was 17 years old.

2.  Her son William Henry Shadwell Earle was baptised 10 Dec 1824, died in Norwood UK Sept 1904
Maj-Gen, Bengal Army; bap 10 Dec 1824 Monghyr, son of William Henry Earle, Bengal Army N/1/13 f.481; d 28 Sep 1904 Norwood, London. He had been living near Westrow Road in Crystal Palace apparently.

3.?  Then a search of the India Office records also produced Anne Griffiths Earle, born 18 October, 1835, Neemuch. Parents William Henry Earle (Capt. 39th Bengal) and Jane. It did not appear on yesterday's search, only todays!  Were there two Wm Henry Earles around, married to Janes?

Mary Anne Shadwell
If Mary Anne Shadwell is the same as Marianne Shadwell, then she married John Charles Haslock and had a son
Charles William Haslock born 20 November 1844, baptised 1846

That Earle family website has Mary Anne marrying John Charles Haslock

Confusing.

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Re: INDIA: SHADWELL and INGLIS in Durgapore
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 26 August 10 07:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Londoner2 I must admit I am only just digesting all that information we got from Joan, I can't seem to be able to get around those India office records on line I think I will have to come down to London for a few days and get some hints and tips. I didn't know whether any of the others were connected to the Army, so that is a break through. I got confused with the William Henry Shadwell  Earle and William Earle Shadwell. The family seem to have given their children names of other families, as you suggest a support grouip but very confusing. I wonder if any of them were involved in the Indian Mutiny in 1857 and where they would have been stationed? If they remained around Meerut that was the starting point for the rebellion.
Harriet Tytlers book (she was an Earle) mentions a cousin, no no that is getting ahead of myself. I am going up to Edinburgh for the tastoo so will be away a couple of days will be in touch when i get back Happy Hunting
Judy

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Re: INDIA: SHADWELL and INGLIS in Durgapore
« Reply #51 on: Monday 30 August 10 14:42 BST (UK) »
Hi.  You talk about the Brockways and Shadwells in Walthamstow, which I have also discovered in the 1871 census whilst looking for my great grandfather, George Robert Hudson b. 1856, Cherrapunji.  He is listed as a 'boarder', aged 15.  I would be most grateful if anybody has any information about his family (especially his parents names/siblings etc). I am curious to find out what his link might be to your family? Thank you.

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Re: INDIA: SHADWELL and INGLIS in Durgapore
« Reply #52 on: Monday 30 August 10 20:10 BST (UK) »
Hi. He was probably the son of friends or acquaintances of John Bird Shadwell and Emma in Cherrapunji.  They sent their first four children to Watlhamstow to be brought up by Emma's sister, then the youngest two followed later, after their mother's death.  There were uprisings in India, and in the hills, at various times so parents might have preferred to send children to the UK. Not to mention fever (malaria, dengue fever, other diseases). It was not uncommon for children to be sent 'home' to be boarders, either to family or friends, or to people who took in these boarders. There is a sad Rudyard Kipling story about two children being sent to board with a family who favour the girl but are very horrid to the boy. Eventually a family friend returning from India is sent to check on them and comes to the rescue. 

The name Hudson rings a bell - it may be mentioned in the letters from Shadwell parents to the children in England. The person who can actually read the handwriting of the letters is Andrew May in Australia!  He read all the letters, rapidly, on a visit to London, and took notes on any matters relevant to his research for his books and papers (look through the publications on his website).

http://www.history.unimelb.edu.au/about/staff/may.html#publications

An India Office Family History search brings up plenty of Hudsons but not George Robert I think.  At least one of them is an indigo planter, some work for the railways, and some work for the EIC.

The north east hills had lime extraction companies, citrus fruit businesses, tea plantations, etc.

You could try the trade directories, cemeteries, etc.


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Re: INDIA: SHADWELL and INGLIS in Durgapore
« Reply #53 on: Friday 03 September 10 00:23 BST (UK) »
Hi all — C.K. Hudson was the Principal Assistant Commissioner of the Khasi and Jaintia Hills from 1855. He had previously been a deputy collector in Assam (see The Asiatic journal and monthly miscellany 1838 in Google Books)

When the lime merchant Harry Inglis returned to England from the Khasi Hills, he appointed C.K. Hudson as manager of his company. Later on (after Harry's death), his son Leo Inglis appointed J.B. Shadwell as chief accountant of the company. After Hudson's death some time after 1878, Shadwell became the manager.

From my notes, the refs in Londoner2's letters to Hudson in Cherrapunji are as follows:

  • Mr Hudson has sent me some flowers and vegetable seeds (J.B. Shadwell, 23 Oct 1863)

    I saw Miss Hudson yesterday she told me to give her love to Georgie & said she would tell her Papa that Georgie wished to have his & her likeness (Emma Shadwell, 24 March 1864)

    Another party of the survey have come up to survey the hills They have pitched their tent between Mr Hudsons house & the bridge towards Mr Inglis house (Emma Shadwell, 9 Feb 1864)

This is all a bit of a coincidence - I am just completing the book on the Welsh missionaries in the Khasi Hills and this morning was writing a little about the Shadwells, so fortuitously came across your very recent postings.

Andrew