Surgeon in 1830's

[Duckies]

Hi,
Have you sorted out your issues ?  I have this information which probably wont help !!
Will of Thomas GREEN of Minster Lovell
Probate 1 May 1802
Source: TNA no. IR26/398 
Summary.
Probate record re Thomas Green of Minster Lovell, yeoman
Name Relationship [Comments] or Major Bequests
Thomas GREEN   Minster Lovell 
Elizabeth GREEN Daughter (Exec) [no surname given] 
Jane GREEN Daughter (Exec) [no surname given] 
Mary BURFORD Daughter 
John BURFORD Grandson 
William BURFORD Grandson 
Mary Ann BURFORD Granddaughter 
George BURFORD Grandson 
Thomas HARRIS Grandson 
Edward HARRIS Grandson 
   
Probate 1 May 1802
Effects under £5000?

So that would explain the Green sister with sister Burford . I'm interested in the Burford line & cant quite yet fit this in but it has to fit somewhere ! With regards to surgeons this maynot be of any help but the Burford family in Banbury were surgeons .

[Valda]

Hi

With a surname as common as Green you should be able to connect almost any other surname and find a Green in there somewhere.

1871 census RG10 3288 folio 10
12 High Cross Street Leicester
Charles Annis Green 35 Head Married Grocer Brixworth Northamptonshire
Sarah Ann Green 32 Wife Married Hinckley Leicestershire
Albert Alexander Green 13 Son Warehouse boy Hunckley Leicestershire
Robert Argyle Green 11 Son Hinckley Leicestershire
Julia Levenia Green 9  Daughter Leicester
Charlotte Burford 16 Sister Warehouse Girl Alesford Kent
plus 1 servant


1861 census RG9 484 folio 11
Preston Hall Lodge House Aylesford Kent
William Spiers 58 Head Married Gardener Alton Hants
Esther Spiers 57 Wife Married Wilbarston Northamptonshire
Charlotte Burford 6 Visitor Aylesford Kent
next door same property
Thomas Burford 63 Head Married Gamekeeper Standlake Oxon
Sophia Burford 12 Daughter Wasing Berks

1851 census HO107 1694 folio 377
North Town Cookham Berkshire
Thomas Burford 52 Head Married ? Keeper Standlake Oxon
Elizabeth Burford 39 Wife Married Northampton
Sophia Burford 2 Daughter Wasing Berks
plus 5 lodgers and 1 servant

18th February 1851 St Marylebone Middlesex
Thomas Burford Full Age Widower Gamekeeper St Marylebone Christopher Burford Farmer
Elizabeth Green Spinster St Marylebone Wm Green  Servant
Both signed
Wintesses Charles Crockford and Esther Spiers


Regards

Valda

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Crikey...... ....  this is out of the blue... thanks Duckies   (and Valda)

will read more and get back to you both later.

I had filed the Greens (bless them)   and am sure  I have all the Census returns etc

But thank you both so much  it has re-awakened that line and I will investigate... a little more

Cheers

xin

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Hello Duckies

Below is from my records and I think it means (though very interesting) we can discount your findings... unless they are distant cousins... As Valda says the Green name is quite common and may connect in many ways... I noticed one or two other similar contacts on GR and Ancestry that really do not link.   
However I have certificates for these people that prove the links... So Maybe Thomas Green and his Burford family are connected somehow, ( wish I knew how?!) But not directly.   
This is such a difficult line but the only Unclear and uncertificated fact now is the father of my Charles Annis Green and or Annis Marshall Green...
He is my G.G grandfather and I can continue his direct descendants ===== ALL certificated. 
I have the  Baptism that shows him as Annis Marshall and checking through the census returns see him eventually become Charles Annis Green.........
It is likely that somewhere there is a MARSHALL link but doubtful will ever be proved.  It was fascinating to find the links to the Burfords.  Because this proved that he was in touch with his mother throughout his life.  I have to file him with my wayward ones ... I have a few that I cannot certificate  which is a shame . 
Thanks again for your help and if I was you I would check out Ancestry and GR to hopefully sort any connections you may need to Burfords.


1.   Thomas Burford .

Thomas married Elizabeth Green daughter of William Green in 1851 in marylebone. Elizabeth was born in 1812. She died in 1894 in Maidstone kent.

They had the following children:

   2   F   i.   Sophia Burford  was born in 1849 in Waring Berks.

   3   F   ii.   Charlottte Burford  was born in 1855 in Alesford Kent.

Elizabeth Green……….is the Mother of Charles Annis… he has no named father… She then went on to marry Thomas Burford as above…
Sophia and Charlotte I have marriage certificates for.

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ps. Thanks Valda... Yes I have checked my records and have all that and the Marriage cert for Elizabeth and Thomas... but really appreciate your help

xin

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Of course... as a by the way....

Elizabeth may not have been from Brixworth.............. she could originally have come from Kent area and gone to Northampton to have the baby???

So IF I could find a Mr. Marshall living in close proximity to an Elizabeth Green anywhere in Kent then I may be on to something....................... BUT who knows

xin

[Billyblue]

Could you contact the Royal College of Surgeons in UK to see if they had a Thomas Green listed as a surgeon?
Dawn M

[Valda]

Hi


On the 1851 census Elizabeth gives her birthplace as Northampton.

Elizabeth is not with her husband at Preston Hall Lodge Aylesford on the 1861 census, she is at Preston Hall Mansion Aylesford

RG9 484 folio 10
Elizabeth Burford 50 Servant Married Cook Wilbarston Northamptonshire

Thomas was a widower by the time of the 1871 census.


Why would Elizabeth give her birthplace as Northamptonshire on two separate censuses if she really came from Kent? Wilbarston and Brixworth are about 13 miles apart. Have you checked for potential Elizabeth Green baptisms in Wilbarston?


Since Charles Annis (Marsahll) Green was the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Green, his father is unlikely to share the surname Green, though undoubtedly with a reasonably common name like Thomas Green the Royal College of Surgeons is likely to have surgeons in their lists called Thomas Green. The Annis Marshall combination of his name on his baptism is more likely to point at least in part to the name of his father, but censuses show Annis Marshalls were all female living in the north of England so it isn't just a straightforward lift of a potential father's name.



Regards

Valda

[Duckies]

Many thanks for the info , yes done ancestry & GR but thanks.