Kings Sutton baptism Haynes/ Haines help please

[JDHAINES]

Hello,

I am also a direct descendent of Richard Haines and I have tried for two years to find his correct Parentage. I know for a fact he is not the son of John Richard and Elizabeth Stanford Haines of Boxgrove in Sussex. There is a great book that has been written by Charles R. Haines ( Richard Haines a forgotten Sussex Worthy ) that disclaims this heritage to it's finality. I would be at your mercy for any information that you could gather to help me on this quest. Thank you. J.D.

[Ali M]

Hi JD
I'm very happy to email you the same information that I sent Elaine  - please bear with me as it may take a day or two due to work commitments
best wishes, Alison

[PHMcD]

Hi Ali,
       I am still attempting to make sense of the various branches of Haynes/Haines  in Kings Sutton and Banbury.  Did the the Kings Sutton Haynes go to the Monthly Quaker meetings and so get married there or are they living permanently in Banbury?
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   Regards Patrick

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[Ali M]

Hi Patrick,

I'll reply in more detail to you at "bigpond" shortly.  But briefly, in case there are others out there trying to sort out "this lot".

There are various Kings Sutton Haynes Quaker marriages at Banbury where the parties continue to reside in Kings Sutton
eg. Elizabeth Haynes who married William Warren 15 Apr 1677.
However she and other Kings Sutton Haynes are mentioned in the will of Richard Haynes c. 1631-1701 a quaker of Banbury.  There are many mentioned - close and distant relatives. eg John Haynes who dies 1681 in Kings Sutton and his 4 sons

Richard and his wife Mary however were born and married in Bicester.  They are also related (from information in wills) to all the other  Banbury Quaker families EXCEPT (and here it gets really annoying!) MY Banbury Quaker  8x Grandparents John Haynes , a locksmith, (c1640) and Mary nee Smith. They seem to be each other's (2nd?) cousins and their families come from Banbury and Charlbury back to c. 1550. Very confusing indeed.

If anyone knows more of this last family I'd love to hear!
warm  wishes
Alison

[JDHAINES]

Ali,

I just pulled out the Recorded lineage of the Richard Haines that is my 8X Grand Father and the names you sent me are on target with the exception of dates.
For all the others in this string as well, Here is what I know for a fact.

Richard Haines Sr. b-1636, m Margeret Abt-1658
There children that I know of:

John b- Dec 10,1664
Thomas b-Dec 22,1666 m-Elizabeth in N.J. USA
Richard Jr. b-1669 (My Ancestrial lineage)
William b-Apr 24,1672
Mary b-Jun 30, 1676 d-Aprox 1677
Joseph b-1682 on board the Amity

[PHMcD]

Ozziegal,
  The John Haines that you refer to as Churchwarden of St James, Westminster who died about 1694.
  John was the son of Thomas Heynes and Alice Adkins
  John married Mary Dallin. I have found no reference to any children and no children are mentioned in his will of which I have a copy. John was very wealthy and left money in Trust for the poor of Kings Sutton.  This Trust was only wound up in the past fifteen years!
 The spelling of John's name appears as Haines, Haynes and father used Heynes just to confuse researchers.
  My family line is from John's brother Thomas (known as Thomas the elder) I would be happy to send you copies of what I have.
                          Patrick in sunny Sydney

[John M Haynes]

My family name is Haynes and I have traced my family history back to either Ann Haynes bap 1779 Kings Sutton or Ann Haines bapised 1776 Kings Sutton.  Ann had an illigitimat son named George
Haynes who was my Gt Gt grandfather.  In the 1851 census he said he was from Charlton, Northants and he was baptised on the 12th February 1797 at Kings Sutton.  He at some point moved to Monks Kirby in Warwickshire where he married in 1835. 
Can anybody help me with which Ann Haynes (Haines) is his mother.
Thank you.