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Re: Thomas Theophilus Upright aka 'Henri De Melvin'
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 12 August 10 12:05 BST (UK) »
Hi


Marriages Jun 1902  
UPRIGHT  Edmund     Edmonton  3a 804
a possible spouse
Billing  Dorothy    Edmonton  3a 804    


Births Dec 1854   Upright  Edmund Luther    Honiton  5b 17

1861 census RG9 1373 folio 27
Fone Street Colyton Devon
Edmund Upright 50 Head Married Lace Manufacturer Exeter Devon
Jane Upright 48 Wife Married Draper Branscombe Devon
Thomas T Upright 16 Son In the shop Branscombe Devon
Alfred E Upright 13 Son Grocer's apprentice Branscombe Devon
Charles W Upright 11 Son Shoemaker's apprentice Branscombe Devon
James B Upright 9 Son Branscombe Devon
Edmund L Upright 6 Son Branscomber Devon
Amelia B Upright 3 Daughter Colyton Devon
plus 1 lodger

Enumerated in Colyton as Luther with his parents on the 1871 census. Occupation was assistant presumably to his father who was now a postmaster. His birthplace on this census was given as Colyton.


The other Uprights on the 1911 census in the Edmonton area aren't necessarily connected. Ernest William and his wife do not seem to be connected.

18th March 1911 St Paul, Canonbury
Ernest William Upright 25 Bachelor Builder's Merchant's Manager 38 Alwyne Road Paul Maurice Upright Hotel Proprietor retired
Catherine Marjorie Mould 25 Spinster 38 Alwyne Road Frederic Gerald Mould Boat Dealer
Both signed
Witnesses John Willoughley and Edwin James White


Arthur Cecil Upright doesn't seem to be in a household with other Uprights on the (free search) on the 1911 census (he appears to be with three Moorhouses). Dorothy appears to be with Albert Edgar aged 3 but no other Uprights. She is aged 32 and confirms a birthplace of Sussex.
You need to see the actual images of the census returns (you cannot ask for lookups from the 1911 census because of copyright reasons - you must search yourself)

http://www.1911census.co.uk/


Adoption became a legal formal process only in 1927.


Births Dec 1907   UPRIGHT  Albert Edgar    Edmonton  3a 491

Albert married in Edmonton registration district in 1929.


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Valda
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Re: Thomas Theophilus Upright aka 'Henri De Melvin'
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 12 August 10 12:17 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Thank you so much for this.  I thought I had to pay to search the 1911 census.   I'm still new to this.  Thanks also for the link.    I think this might take me a while to solve, if ever. 

Best wishes,

Sue
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Re: Thomas Theophilus Upright aka 'Henri De Melvin'
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 12 August 10 12:28 BST (UK) »
Hi


You do have to pay to look at the actual images of the 1911 census which gives the full information. There is a free search which gives names and ages.


1901 census RG11 4616 folio ?02
3 Leadenhall Street Darlington Durham
Theodora Billing 23 Lodger Singer Prima Domia Hackham Sussex (Hailsham)

Marriages Mar 1912  
Cooper  Arthur J  Upright  Edmonton  3a 661    
Upright  Theodora  Cooper  Edmonton  3a 661

There is a Theodora Cooper's death registration in Debden registration district Suffolk in 1962 aged 84

Births Mar 1878
Billing  Theodora    Hailsham  2b 89

Theodora's father was a physician on the 1881 census. Her mother was Scottish. It looks like her parents married in Scotland as their first children were born there.  'Dora' was in a boarding school in Rottingdean on the 1891 census.


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Valda
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Re: Thomas Theophilus Upright aka 'Henri De Melvin'
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 12 August 10 12:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks ever so much again Valda.  This is great.  I will check it all out.  I reckon Dora would be Theodora. 

Thank you again, off to check this free 1911 census.  It will come in very handy.

Best wishes,

Sue
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Re: Thomas Theophilus Upright aka 'Henri De Melvin'
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 12 August 10 13:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue / Trish / Valda
By 1901 Thomas T Upright is living in Salford with wife (common law I think) Annie from Wrexham, Wales. He is still in Salford in 1911 where he died in the September.  I have not come across anyone else in his family who was on the stage so I will double check what info I have on the Edmund Upright in my tree to see if I have an occupation or any census details which might give us a clue. Better still I can send you an invite to see my tree on ancestry if you message me at * and you can study what I've got so far.
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Re: Thomas Theophilus Upright aka 'Henri De Melvin'
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 12 August 10 13:35 BST (UK) »
in 1911 Edmond Bidgood Upright (Comedian) B1875 is living at 47a George St, Ryde, Isle of Wight, with wife and family

UPRIGHT, Edmond B Head Married age 36 b1875 Commedian b. Christchurch, Hants
UPRIGHT, Rebecca L wife Married 14 years b1876 Bethnal Green
Daughters: Violet EV, Rose L, May R
Sons: Edmond AB, Francis GM, George EM
Boarders: GAITLEY, Philip and FISHER, Charles (both musicians)

This Edmond Bidgood Upright was the son of Alfred Upright (younger brother to Thomas Theophilus Upright).

Hope that helps
Wendy
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Re: Thomas Theophilus Upright aka 'Henri De Melvin'
« Reply #42 on: Monday 27 December 10 20:42 GMT (UK) »
That Edmund Bidgood Upright was my Grandfather...musician and comedien....Thomas Theophilus was my great uncle.....it is very exciting to find some one that could be a relative ...

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Re: Thomas Theophilus Upright aka 'Henri De Melvin'
« Reply #43 on: Monday 27 December 10 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Edmund Bidgood was my husband's  gt gt gt grandfather.   His grandfather was Arthur Cecil, his great grandfather was Edmund Luther Upright and gt gt grandfather Edmund Bidgood. 

Thomas Theophilus married Wendy's 3x gt grandmother - that is Wendy on the other  posts in this thread.
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Upright     Devon & Middlesex