The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)

[deb usa]

H Bryceson signature on Bagg Marriage ...

[Siamese Girl]

Deb - I'm still seeing the handwritting of the John Bryceson of the parish and Mary Shephard bit as slightly different to the signatures but having said that she was then called Mary Sheppard and the witness was John Sheppard but when she married Matthew Ward the Mary is written quite differently and the witness becomes  John Shephard. If the curate filled it all in he shouldn't have. Anyway I'm not going to worry too much about the H Bryceson signature/not signature as there are so few Brycesons in London that the chances of them not being one and the same are miniscule.

Shaun - you have no idea how long it took me to piece the Bryceson family tgether from Ancestry/the census/IGI and there you have it all summed up in a paragraph!   I can't see any way that John doesn't fit in somewhere with the family - perhaps he's the son of the elder John born 1767 in Perth - the dates would just about fit?

Carole

[deb usa]

Shaun - you have no idea how long it took me to piece the Bryceson family tgether from Ancestry/the census/IGI and there you have it all summed up in a paragraph! 
Carole

Well done anyway on persevering, Carole 

yep ...as you say ... On mary's marriage to Mattie ...Mary is signed differenly and John signs as Shepard ..one p 

deb

[Siamese Girl]

I shall go mad if I look at John Bryceson/Mary Sheppard's marriage any longer. It's NOT right is it? but then the "B" of Bryceson in John Bryceson's signature is different to the "B" in H Bryceson's signature - oh blow it all - I'll be having nightmares about this tonight!  

Then I looked again at Henry Bryceson's marriage to Louisa Martin in 1827 and that really looks as if all the marriage entries were written out by one hand. That took place at St Martin in the Fields - which was the parish given as the address of John Bryceson when he was buried in 1824 at St James Pentonville. They MUST be connected.

Carole

[deb usa]

 

Carole ... Breathe in, Breathe out ...Breathe in , breathe out ...repeat repeatedly

deb 


Oh and remember Carole , NB is a White 

[Siamese Girl]

Carole ... Breathe in, Breathe out ...Breathe in , breathe out ...repeat repeatedly

deb 


Oh and remember Carole , NB is a White 

I know - I don't know why I'm so fixated on the Brycesons - I think I need therapy

Carole

[deb usa]

  .... Carole, I think we ALL need therapy LOL

Have been going through the diary again ...found some other things of interest that may keep us going for a while ...or at least until the 9th...

After dinner took walk with Ann through Piccadilly, Knightsbridge, Brompton, Chelsea and Battersea to Wandsworth to see house in which Matthew Ward received his education.  It is an old white house at the corner of Garrett Lane and the High Street and directly facing the Ram Inn.  It is now a Ladies Seminary and is called Wandsworth House.

Tuesday 12th May 1846
Granny Shepard at Richmonds Buildings cleaning the two rooms on the second floor back to be in readiness for our occupation next week.

Monday 18th May 1846
Took 2 rooms on second floor, 9 Richmonds Buildings, for self and Granny from this day.

So they had two rooms at the back of the building (ie not facing the road) - rent was probably a bit cheaper for rooms at the back. Still unsure if they are the Marshall's old rooms.

found this:
Tuesday 24th February 1846
Died this morning at 9 Richmonds Buildings, James, son of William and Caroline Marshall of the second floor back after a short illness, aged one and a half years


deb

added

Wednesday 29th April 1846
Received information from Mother of the Marshalls going to leave their lodgings in the second floor Richmonds Buildings, and the intention of Granny Shepard’s moving thence if terms can be agreed upon between the landlord and her, but at present it is only talked of.

[Mongibello]

Until very recently the Ram Inn, Wandsworth was part of the Youngs Brewery, which was the oldest brewery in London (16th Century).   Sadly when old Mr Young (!) died the next generation sold the site and moved the brewery to Bedford.

[deb usa]

Hi Mongibello

It's so sad when things like that happen ...I would certainly be hanging onto a buiding/brewery from the 16th century!!!!


Found another little snippet ... re: Dean Street ... where NB's mum lived before her marriage:

 NB went to this place: Anchor Coffee House, Dean Street


I have also been searching for Ann/Eliza Thomas AGAIN:

from the diary:
Eliza, otherwise Ann Thomas, came to Richmonds Buildings for a short time after which I accompanied her to an acquaintance at 101 Chancery Lane   

Ann's address was: 22 St James’s Street
another reference:
Ann Thomas paid us a visit and I had to lend her my company homeward to St James Street.

I am sure we searched for her a few times in the first parts of our saga, but I thought with new eyes and better maps we may be able to find her.

BTW William Marshall (9 Richmond buildings) was a TAILOR and from SCOTLAND 

(Carole ..... maybe he knew Henry Bryceson of Organ making Fame  ... breathe in breathe out LOL )

deb