The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)

[MaryA]

Simple reason for bookmarking is because I manage to pop in and out from work computer while attempting not to leave any signs (cookies etc.) that I have done so, similarly I can't pick up my emails to tell me that there are new notifications.

When I log in it is easy to click the "Show new replies" link and go to the threads that have been updated.

Perhaps the regulars would prefer we don't clutter up the thread by doing this.  Sorry about that, I would never know what is happening then.

[Ruskie]

When I go to the Archives next Tuesday I will have a look at the Drainage Plans (euphemistically known as the Architectural Plans).
There MIGHT be a ground plan of some of the buildings.    However I think the 1970 Drawing is probably the best there is.

That would be wonderful, thank you Mongibello. There is the 1964 photograph as well as the 1970's drawing. See Steve's post towards the end of page one on this thread. 

(interesting moniker Monigbello - is there a story behind it? 

[Re bookmarking - I was once told by a moderator not to do this  , so instead of saying I'm bookmarking I try to think of something not too inane to add to the thread. I was only very recently told about the Notify button. As long as thousands of people aren't joining in and just saying that they're bookmarking, I personally don't see a problem.]

[Mongibello]

Mongibello is the Sicilian dialect name for Mount Etna.   The only connection is we have friends (Australian/ Sicilian) who live on the lower slopes.
The two sides of my family have been in London for 200+ and 120 years respectively.

[Ruskie]

Mongibello is the Sicilian dialect name for Mount Etna.   The only connection is we have friends (Australian/ Sicilian) who live on the lower slopes.
The two sides of my family have been in London for 200+ and 120 years respectively.

Thanks for the explanation.

No wonder you're such an expert with the London research with such a long history in the area. 

Getting back to Nathaniel Bryceson ... have you managed to trace any/many living descendants of Nathaniel? There are some of us who are keen to try, so if you can let us know which lines you've been able to trace successfully, maybe we can work on some of the others.

[deb usa]

Hi

Forgive my ignorance ....re  Richmond buildings in 1846

If NB lived at number 9 would  he be the only tennant or would there be rooms above and below him occupied by other families? ie Like a block of flats

the reason I'm asking is that NB mentions taking Ann UP to his room and also Ann getting upset by Granny seeing her coming DOWN the stairs.


deb

[ShaunJ]

Deb,

There are 11 separate households at number 9 in the 1851 census (including John Shephard and Nathaniel as one)

[deb usa]

Thanks Shaun

Looking at the 1841 and counting the 'double lines' demarcating different houses, it looks like Matthew Ward was at #7

deb

[steve_gus]

As far as I understand it, we dont yet actually have a picture or a drawing of where Nat lived - everything posted or linked to so far is on the other side of the street, being numbers 1-6, not number 9 where Nat lived.

As 1-6 are four stories, and apparently built by the same 1700s developer (Mr Richmond) its possible they looked similar, and very likely at least the same amount of stories (4) as I doubt property was ever cheap in London and land could be wasted on low-rise accomodation. A 650 sq ft office is £1,500 (i think for a month) today (on a google search) - which compares well with Nats 2 shillings a week ( £0.10 or ten pence).

The Soho Hotel, on the site of number 7, is from £400 a night for a room.

[deb usa]

hi


In 1841 Matthew Ward was at #7 .... NB has mentioned the Marshall family (births, moving etc) who were at #2 which is the same # as Nathaniel Vagg ...it's great to be able to look at the map and see where they were ... it's made a great difference for me.

deb