The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)

[Ruskie]

You always come up trumps Shaun. 

I do have that excellent map but as it's a bit older than 1846 I didn't check it for Richmond Buildings. Of course, as we know, the buildings were there for many years before Nathaniel moved in.

The long road/lane going SE from Richmond Buildings is Richmond Mews.

It doesn't look like the old building on the cnr of Dean St is classed as part of Richmond Buildings (at this point in time at least) however that quote I posted earlier seems to imply that part of Richmond Buildings faced Dean St. Odd numbering on both Richmond Buildings and also Dean St - and the old building that I think may still remain today isn't numbered. 

Deb, look at the name of the street a little to the right and down a bit from Richmond Buildings ...  Queen St - could this be where Ann Fox was born? 

[ShaunJ]

This 1868 map shows both Richmond Buildings and Richmond Mews http://london1868.com/weller41b.htm (but in rather less detail than the 1790's map).

[nestagj]

Just bookmarking part 5 and to say I have Steven's email so will let him know about the grave.

More later

N

[alpinecottage]

Odd numbering on both Richmond Buildings and also Dean St - and the old building that I think may still remain today isn't numbered. 

Not that it has any real significance, but I've worked out the numbering system.

The mapmakers start with 1, 2, 3, etc up to 10.  Then they put 1, 2, 3, again up to 9, then the next number they print is 20 (ie you're supposed to put in the missing 2 yourself).  Then they print 1, 2, 3 to 9 and then print 30 and so on.  The exception to this rule comes at street corners etc, where they print the full house number (sometimes).  It's not that easy to explain, but if you look at Richmond Buildings and Dean Street, you'll be able to see what I mean, I hope!

[steve_gus]

So, looks like number 9 where Nat lived is at the bottom left side of the road? Which looks like a new building. The row of 6 houses referred to in the last few posting pages would be on the other side of the street, so not where Nat lived as such but perhaps similar.

The 60's photo Rusjie found if clicked on is bigger - as below. But this was after a rebuild mentioned in ealy 1900's ?

[alpinecottage]

I think the largest building at the south west corner is no 8. No 9 is the medium sized mid-terrace house between that larger house and the house marked "10"

No 8 may not have been a newer building but it could have been a different size because it was an end terrace.   Mid-terrace buildings can only be two rooms deep ie windows at the front and back because otherwise any middle rooms would have no natural light.  End terrace buildings can be bigger because they can have windows on three walls.

Shame NB didn't put sketches in his diary, isn't it?

[deb usa]

morning all

I thought I would repost Dinkydidy's link to the 1846 map.

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow/1846map/3_2bw.htm

BTW ... Shaun,  I love the 1790 map.

Ruskie ... Queen Street is really close ....would love to know if Ann was born there.

Off to see if I can spot Stephen Street...


deb

[Ruskie]

Odd numbering on both Richmond Buildings and also Dean St - and the old building that I think may still remain today isn't numbered. 

Not that it has any real significance, but I've worked out the numbering system.

The mapmakers start with 1, 2, 3, etc up to 10.  Then they put 1, 2, 3, again up to 9, then the next number they print is 20 (ie you're supposed to put in the missing 2 yourself).  Then they print 1, 2, 3 to 9 and then print 30 and so on.  The exception to this rule comes at street corners etc, where they print the full house number (sometimes).  It's not that easy to explain, but if you look at Richmond Buildings and Dean Street, you'll be able to see what I mean, I hope!

Alpinecottage - I'm afraid you've lost me. 

  (no matter)

[steve_gus]

I think the largest building at the south west corner is no 8. No 9 is the medium sized mid-terrace house between that larger house and the house marked "10"

Thats the way I see it too. The newer building I was referring to is the one thats there now. There is nothing that looks like an old terrace at the lower left of street Richmond Buildings. And I think the row of 6 was on the right side of st as you walk down it, which now seems to be completly different - see birds eye photo view in thread 4 just finshed.