Help in Victoria Please

[tadpolenz]

Hi I'm looking for George and Ellen Wenham  in Victoria
I can't find when they arrived there.Ellen was a Day before she married George. I cant find marriage in England IF that where they came from.
 The Info that I have found is that they Left Victoria in Oct 1856 on the ship Mimmie Dike for Wellingtom New Zealand.
 Infant    1 
 Ellen     22
 George 24
 The infant  her name is Ellen .So she would have been born abt 1855-56.  If she was born at sea on the way to Victoria would here birth be recorded there or where they came from also could some one have a look for there marriage
thank you
 Cheers Tad 

[alison2763]

Hi Tad,
There is no marriage in Victoria for George and Ellen , or a recorded birth for the infant.
I have looked on the Victorian Marine BDM Register and there is no marriage or birth recorded there either.
I have also checked NSW just in case.
Regards
Alison

[tadpolenz]

Hi Alison  Thanks for looking for me . It is hard when you have very little to go on. The family have been looking for a long time. The infant may have been called Helen Agnes.
Once again thank you
 Cheers Tad 

[judb]

Tried to have a look at the passenger list that you have quoted but it's not held at the National Library - only at PROV in Melbourne.   

I had a bit of a hunt in some other records (Immigration, BMDs etc) but with the same result as Alison - nothing!

Judith

[tadpolenz]

Hi Judith  Thank you for that. I have tried looking in inward ships record from 1830's to when they left the ones that I have been able to find. Just in case they came out with mum and dad. Ellen was a Day before she was a Wenham.Or did they come out as convects
 Thanks for your help
Cheers Tad 

[majm]

Hi there,

1841 July NSW Govt Gazette
Convicts granted Tickets of leave
John Skinner, aka Wenham, Prince George      I think Prince George was actually a ship, 

NSW State Records Office Indexes

Ticket of leave (TL 41/1406 of 1841) to John Skinner aka Wenham arrived 1837 ex Prince George shows he was a labourer, born at Craulbrook, Tried at Kent Quarter Sessions. He was in the Yass District of NSW 1841
Certificate of Freedom (43/1483) to John Skinner was issued 7 Sep 1843
There's also 5 Nov 1838, George Wenham ex the ship Maitland, aged 34, a labourer with a wife aged 30 and sadly the loss at only 4 yrs of their child, George who died when this ship was in quarantine

NSW State Records : http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/  Suggest you use the keyword search option to start 

Also, lots of good resources on the Aussie Board and its sub-boards  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,399.0.html

Edit to add
Victoria was part of NSW until early 1850's  so that's why I was looking at NSW  and thinking if your George was a son of a George 

Cheers,  JM

[judb]

There is an Ellen DAY arriving into NSW (I think) on an assisted passage as follows:

Ship: Bolton, arrived 23 June 1853, left Plymouth 22 Feb and the Cape 15 May
Ellen DAY, 22, General House Servant,
Native place: Knockerallagh?, Co Tipperary, Ireland
Parents: Sylvester and Catherine, living near Kemplemore??
Roman Catholic,
Can read,
No relatives in the colony,
Paid 1 pound

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchhits.aspx?table=Assisted%20Immigrants&id=9&frm=1&query=Surname:day;Firstname:ellen

An account of the ship here:
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/669077?searchTerm=bolton+ship

I can't see that this ship called at Melbourne and the age of Ellen does not match exactly.  However it's the only one I can see.

No sign of George at all.  

Judith

[majm]

Hi there,

Re the George Wenham and family on the Maitland to NSW Nov 1838 ... could be mistranscribed surname Winham but image shows as Wenham    there's two families with that surname on that voyage, both were from Kent ...

George, 34 and wife Mary 31, with two children, William 9 and George 4.  Mr George could read and write and was a Farm Servant.

Henry, 35 and wife Mary 36, with five children, James 15, Mary 12, Harriet 8, William 5, George 2.  Mr Henry could read and write and was a Farm Servant.

Attached is snip showing native place, starts with "B" and apparently it is in Kent 

[majm]

 

Also, there's an odd submitted tree with an obvious error but that may be a typo    Also as a general rule, submitted trees need to be independently confirmed 

It has a marriage for George Wenham to Ellen Day with date of 6 April 1898 at Featherstone Reg Office.  That year must be typo error for it has Ellen Day's dates as 1836-1872.   George's dates 1832-1901, and one son, Henry, born 1868 in Greytown NZ   

Sadly, that submitted tree does not list any parents for George 1832-1901 nor Ellen 1836-1872. 


Cheers,  JM