Ryan, old-new Monklands 1859 onwards

[Markr3001]

Many thanks. Sorry for all the posts! 

[MonicaL]

No need to apologise for your posts...that's what RootsChat is all about!

Monica

[Wynyard wife]

Hi Monica and Mark,
Just a little update on the Ferns. John and Anne Ferrand were both from Donegal in Ireland. Some of their childrens names are recorded as Faran, and I think Farren or Farren was likely their name as that is very common in Donegal and I can't find any Ferrands in Donegal.Probably the accent when the Census officers came round.
Karen

[MonicaL]

Karen, you just know that the surname Ferns is going to so mis-transcribed on records! This is where the use of wildcards on searches can be invaluable 

Are you connected to this line?

I was just wondering about the surname Brukins that young Catherine shows with in the 1861 census. Given her birth was illegitimate, likely the surname was for the reputed father. Checking the surname Brukins in the 1861 census brings up only only one household (apart from the entry for Catherine Brukins with her maternal grandparents in Baldernock)....so happens also in Baldernock 

Richard Brukins 51, agr. lab. b. Ireland
Christian Campbell 46 wife b. Baldernock
James Brukins 28, son agr. lab., b. Baldernock

Address: Balmore, Baldernock

Strong possibility that James above is the likely 'reputed father'....

As with Ferns, not sure what the surname Brukins was actually meant to be given there is only one whole family in the whole of Scotland with that surname in 1861....likely a mis-transcription of something else?

Monica

[MonicaL]

1871 has James Brokins as Brookens, now married and with children:

James Brookens 38, Iron Mining Labourer b. Baldernock
Margaret Brookens 40 b. Campsie, Stirlingshire
John Crawford 16, step son, b. Campsie, Stirlingshire
Robert Brookens 11 b. Baldernock, Stirlingshire
Richard Brookens 8 b. Cadder, Lanarkshire
Janet Brookens 6 b. Cadder, Lanarkshire
James Brookens 3 b. Cadder, Lanarkshire

Address: No 1 Lochfauld, Cadder, Lanarkshire

All supposition on my part that James is likely father for Catherine Ferns/Brukins 

Monica

[Wynyard wife]

Hi Monica,
My maiden name is Ferns. My gg grandfather was James Ferns, a brother of Catherine-the mother of Catherine Bonar. The Brukin name is interesting. It's hard to read in the original transcript of 1861 census. When I first read it I thought it might be Harkin-another Donegal name or even Brogan. Interesting that James Brooken lived in Lochfauld cottages because my gg grandfather's brother John also lived there. I presume they were miners' cottages, as he was a miner also.

[MonicaL]

All circumstantial on the Brookins/Brekins side but I would say looks likely for potentially young Catherine's father.

James Brookens looks to have married in 1862, according to IGI, to a Margaret Blair (possibly a widow given the older step son showing in the household in 1871). There is a family tree for this line on Ancestry which I think you have access to. They have left Margaret's maiden name off, so just search under parents James Brookens and Margaret in Cadder.

Monica

[Wynyard wife]

Hi Monica,
I did a little more digging on the brukins subject. I typed in Brookins in the Griffiths valuation and a couple of Richards and other names came up in Donegal -Moville Upper. Coincidentally,for a variety of reasons,this is the same area I'd already speculated that the Ferns' were from, so they may already have known each other.
Karen

[kathy-9]

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