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help with 1841 census
« on: Saturday 31 July 10 16:50 BST (UK) »
Hello All,
I'm on FindMyPast searching for Mary E Morris born 1834, there are only 9 names and none relating to my  search.
I'm almost sure I have her in 1851 age 16 servant living in Laws St Pembroke Dock Town born St Thomas HWest. I think this is her christening 9 march 1834 St Thomas HWest father Henry Morris mother Elizabeth Davies.  Her marriage in 1855 Pembroke Dock gives address  Pembroke St age 20 father Henry Morris Tailor or Sailor.  On the marriage cert. there is a Margaret Rees by mark. Can any rootschatter suggest where she might be in1841.

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Re: help with 1841 census
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 August 10 07:43 BST (UK) »
Henry Morris a Mariner mrd Elizabeth Davies at Haverfordwest St Thomas 02nd July 1829. So this proves Henry's occupation on his daughters mrge cert.

The only Mary Elizabeth Morris I can find is baptised in 1834 at H'west St Thomas, so we can presume the entry you found on the IGI is correct.

I note an Elizabeth Morris shown as a Family Servant aged 30 in Hill Street H'west St Thomas 07th June 1841 so perhaps her husband was out working on the river, and down to the sea on this night of the census. Of course mrge status is not shown in'41.

As to where else the family may be in June '41 pick any village hamlet or house on the river and trib's between H'west and Pemb Dock, although I'm sure SKP will check the whole of the '41 and update you better than I.

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Re: help with 1841 census
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 August 10 12:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your info on Elizabeth Morris. You say SKP would check the whole of 1841 census, but I don't know what or who SKP is. I'm quiet new to researching family history, so forgive me if my question sounds thick.

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Re: help with 1841 census
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 August 10 13:26 BST (UK) »
Hi taffess

SKP is 'some kind person'  ;)

I looked for this the other day without much luck (I too have Morris's in Pembrokeshire who are causing me problems  ::)  )   Who did Mary marry and were the census after her marriage consistent with her place of birth.

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Re: help with 1841 census
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 August 10 14:10 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Mary E Morris married Daniel Morgan in Pembroke Dock 1855.  I have her in 1861/71/81 and yes each census records  -  born in H.West. I haven't found her in 1891, so I think her death would be between that time in  S.Wales, but if your Mary Morris remained in Pembs then we are looking for 2 different people. Hope that helps.

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Re: help with 1841 census
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 August 10 14:41 BST (UK) »
Hi

Have had another look in 1841 can't see the family at all or sisters Maria and Catherine (as per IGI baptisms)  There is a Henry with wife Elizabeth in 1851 and 1841 at Lantwit bn Haverfordwest but no sign of Mary.

Thankfully I have my Mary, she left Wales for England after the 1851 census  ;D

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Re: help with 1841 census
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 August 10 16:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie,

Thanks for the lookup in 1841. I have the IGI  for Mary E Morris born 1834 St Thomas HWest, but are you saying she had two sisters i.e. Maria and Catherine? Can you tell me what year they were born?
You have found a Henry and Elizabeth Morris in1851 living in Llantwit.  Is that in Glam?
I have Mary in 1851 servant living in Laws St Pembroke age 16 born St. Thomas HWest. I'm sure that's my girl, but I haven't found any sisters or brothers.  I'm now wondering if her parents have died before 1841, if so would she be in the workhouse?


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« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 August 10 17:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

It is highly likely that she had at least two sisters and a brother.  If you go into the IGI 
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/search_IGI.asp?indid=&spouse_id=&color=

in the search box leave first name blank enter Morris as second name
put Henry in first name of father and elizabeth in first name of mother
in batch no put C081091
select British Isles as region (sorry missed that bit)
enter

This brings up possible siblings, obviously only the original register will give any more detail.  They could have course died young....

The Henry and Elizabeth that I found in Lantwit (yes it's Glam) had two children, William bn c 1836 and Henry bn 1841. Henry is a Lock keeper on both census, bn Haverfordwest as per 1851.

I  think the 1851 Mary is probably yours. I also think you have the right christening as Mary later has a daughter Catherine Maria.

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Re: help with 1841 census
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 August 10 17:36 BST (UK) »
F.Y.I.
Catherine Anne Morris baptised 1836 H'west St Thomas
Maria Morris baptised 1831 H'west St Thomas

I don't know what the IGI says.

By my reckoning there are least another 5 children that are probably to Henry.

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