American Murder about 1930?

[MonicaL]

From that link provided by Shaun earlier, can see how the story of Leticia gets complicated. From what I have read, conclusions regarding Leticia's early years make sense 

Monica

[MonicaL]

Sorry Trees, I flounder with the US vital records! Hopefully someone can advice you on how to proceed for this.

Monica

[Trees]

It all looks pretty solid to me too Since receiving the post I have been in contact with fellow family researchers on this line and one had followed Lettie's maternal grand parents parents (I have the ELLARDs way back). they were Francis and Letitia nee Weir who came to Lancashire from ireland about 1864 It looks like they had 8 children, five born in Lancs. So that was where the Letitia comes down from.

it looks like  the family were in financial difficulty when the fatherEdward Ellard a postman was jailed for theft of a letter the wife and children would not have received any aid while he served his time in jail so poor Mary Ann must have thought she was giving Letitia a better chance of a good life by giving her up to the Pyes. I have yet to find a link between the Pye and Ellard families

I think at least 2 of the children were baptised Cof E(but its from  patron submitted events on Family search) so I don't think we will find if they were god parents of the young Ellards
If anyone can check the Ellard and Pye marriages it would be interesting to see if any of the main players witnessed either marriage

Trees

[toni*]

if she was murdered you'd expect it to be reported in the newspapers

[Trees]

Just had another mail about the case with a good lead to a connection between the Pye and Ellards
If you are reading this Hello cousin R you clever detective 
Trees

[MonicaL]

There is a WW1 registration card for James Henry Green from Sept 1918 attesting in Butler. Aged 34, born 23 Sept 1883. Shows as already married to Leticia. There is a middle name for Leticia, I think Barber?

Monica

[Greensleeves]

Just registering an interest/intention to get involved here; no time yet but tomorrow......

[LizzieW]

How intriguing family history can be.  Looking forward to reading the outcome.

Lizzie

[Trees]

Hi Greensleeves and Lizzie I think we have a good one here don't we? S and her cousin R have done an amazing job of detection on this so far it would be great to be able to add more for them
Now Monica Leticia's  mother had a sister Leticia Barbara I wonder if our girl has been named after her Barber and Barbara are close unless of course Aunt Leticia was leticia barber and that has been mis read along the way I found her baptism as a patron submission on Family Search
I wonder if any one on the Lancs. board will be able to check that baptism it was St Thomas,Eccleston Near, Prescot, Lancashire, 7 May 1855
oh now I think the cousin R is fairly local to St Helens maybe he has already checked the Registers I'll ask S
I just love this past time too lizzie better than a detective novel
life was sometimes more amazing than fiction
Trees

(just found that Barber green make tar layers doubt there is any connection though)