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[Lodger]

If it helps (or clouds the issue), the name Duthart did exist in Wishaw.
According to the 1925 street directory there was a J. Duthart at 249 Cambusnethan Street, and William Duthart, miner  was at 7 Anderson Street.

According to the burial records for Cambusnethan cemetery Hannah Duthart and her husband Cornelius Russell buried a child called Alexander, aged 19 months on 29th August 1911.

Also, Mary Duthart and her husband William Warren buried their son william, aged 17 months, on 1st June 1916, their address is given as 140 Cambusnethan Street Wishaw.

I tried looking the burial records for Nina and Mary Welsh/Dougall/Duthart but no luck. The records I have finish at 1916 (with a few years missing) so they may have died after that date.

good luck with your research.

Lodger.

[Chorney]

If it helps (or clouds the issue), the name Duthart did exist in Wishaw.
According to the 1925 street directory there was a J. Duthart at 249 Cambusnethan Street, and William Duthart, miner  was at 7 Anderson Street.

According to the burial records for Cambusnethan cemetery Hannah Duthart and her husband Cornelius Russell buried a child called Alexander, aged 19 months on 29th August 1911.

Also, Mary Duthart and her husband William Warren buried their son william, aged 17 months, on 1st June 1916, their address is given as 140 Cambusnethan Street Wishaw.

I tried looking the burial records for Nina and Mary Welsh/Dougall/Duthart but no luck. The records I have finish at 1916 (with a few years missing) so they may have died after that date.

good luck with your research.

Lodger.

Thanks so much!  Mary Welsh Dougal died here in Canada in 2005.  The rest may be helpful though.  Thanks again for your efforts!

Beth

[Chorney]

Oh!  It's possible that Nina married and took the last name Hendry.

[Chorney]

Just an update!

The information given for Victor Albert Phillips was a goldmine, and I was able to follow it back for quite a number of years.  Of the 4 grandparents I'm currently researching, Victor was the only one I hadn't met and the one who's been dead the longest (died before I was born).  Funny how those I did meet and who have died more recently are proving the most difficult to track down!

Thanks again for your help!  This Dougal/Duthart thing is driving me insane!

I know my grandmother Molly was born in Wishaw but I can't say for certain that the family stayed in Wishaw.  Do you think that because she was illigitimate that her mother might have been sent away for the birth?  I'm just grasping at straws here, but part of the family must have stayed there as Alec Duthart was born (1926) and raised in Cambusnethan, which is just down the road I believe.

I can't seem to find any records at all for a Thomas Dougal married to a Mary Ann that seems to fit well enough to make sense, and I can't find any record at all of a Nina, even though we know she existed.








Beth

[Chorney]

If anyone could check for Dougal in Wishaw 1911 or 1912 I'd be forever grateful!

Beth

[Chorney]

Another little update to my saga....

Someone offered to search Mary Welsh Dougal at NRH and came up empty handed.  She was also told that she would not be on the census release coming next year.  I assume because of her birthdate.

I'm widening my search to all of Lanarkshire in hopes that I can find some record of her birth mother.

Airdrie
Coatbridge
Cumbernauld
Kilsyth
Motherwell
Shotts
and of course...
Wishaw
I think Cambusnethan also falls into this category.

Again, here's a better laid out bit on what little info I have.

My grandmother:
Mary (Molly) Welsh Dougal(l)
Born: July 9, 1911, Wishaw

Her mother would have been Nina (don't know last name, but could be Dougal or Duthart, or something else for that matter). No one seems to know the father's name, but it appears Nina worked for his family.

Mary (Molly) was raised by Mary Ann (don't know last name).  Mary Ann was married twice.  Mary Ann was either Nina's mother or sister. 

Some family members who could have been siblings to Nina are: Fannie, Yram, Edward.

Mary (Molly) had a half sister named May who became May Lampkin (William Lampkin) through marriage in Canada.

The last name Dougal is obviously someone's last name, I just can't figure out whose.  I think it must be Nina's but I can't find any record of a Nina Dougal anywhere. 

Also, my mother's middle name is Hendry which I'm assuming was someone's last name, but again, I don't know who.

I know that the drummer Alec Duthart was some relation to Mary (Molly).  He called her Aunt Molly, but that doesn't necessarily mean she was his aunt - just older, I guess.

If anyone was any advice or hints I'd appreciate it!

Thanks!
Beth

[sancti]

There is this birth which would need to be ordered

1911 DOUGAL MAGGIE Female at CAMBUSNETHAN /LANARK

[sancti]

1901 census has this family

Peter Dougal 45
Eliza Dougal 43
Neil Dougal 24
Catherine Dougal 20
Bella Dougal 18
Daniel Dougal 12
Peter Dougal 9
Mary Dougal 4
Daniel Gray 80

Address: 20 Wemys Row Cambusnethan

[Chorney]

1901 census has this family

Peter Dougal 45
Eliza Dougal 43
Neil Dougal 24
Catherine Dougal 20
Bella Dougal 18
Daniel Dougal 12
Peter Dougal 9
Mary Dougal 4
Daniel Gray 80

Address: 20 Wemys Row Cambusnethan

I saw that one too Sancti.  The Mary listed here would be too young though.  From my grandmother's record of landing of landing in Canada in 1929, she lists her family member in Scotland as:

Mrs. Mary Dougal, 57 Devon Cottage, Carfin (?) Rd., Craigneuk, Wishaw

that's 1929 though, and doesn't really give me anything to go by except her mother's name, who was actually either her aunt or grandmother.  She just didn't know it at the time.