Missing my g-grandmother Mary Ann McNea

[susanroscoe]

As promised, here are details of James MCNEA and his wife Margaret HUNTER.  I had hoped to do a copy of a file I have but have been forced to re-type the main details, which exclude specific sources but you can find them from the website info I have given you. 
Anything which I haven't made clear, please contact me.


James MCNEA and Margaret HUNTER

Margaret HUNTER
Birth: 1819? Ireland (source 1845 marriage – ‘age 26’, death certificate ‘age 64’ b.1828)
Father: James HUNTER (see note below)
Death:  17 Nov 1892, Bootle, Lancashire (source Death Certificate)
Marriage: 10 Jun 1845, St Annes, Belfast to James MCNEA, Architect (Ulster Historical Foundation (UHF)
Children:
Mary Ann MCNEA (1850-1925)
Elizabeth Grace MCNEA (1850- 29 Aug 1926 Lancs)
Margaret MCNEA (*24 Nov 1850 – still alive 1911 Ireland census)
James Alexander McNEA (*29 May 1853 – ? received WW1 Merchant Seaman’s Medal)
Harriet Jane “Hattie” MCNEA (*26 Aug 1857 – 24 Aug 1935, Southport, Lancs)
William Gibson MCNEA (1858 –
Walter Hunter MCNEA ( *13 Dec 1861 – 15 Dec 1902, Winwick, Lancs)
Clara Maude Maud MCNEA (*17 Feb 1865 – 24 Nov 1944 Southport, Lancs)

Notes:
Marriage details:Margaret HUNTER’s father is shown as  James HUNTER, occupation Clerk to the Manor Court.  Witnesses at her wedding were Thomas HUNTER and William HUNTER – were they her brothers/uncles?   An 1843 List of Petty Sessions for County Down shows  place where held: Hillsborough, Clerk : J & JW Hunter

20 Sept 1875 St James Church of Ireland, Shankhill, Belfast - Margaret MCNEA (b1850) married William NASH (1821- 28 Nov 1929, Great Crosby, nr Liverpool, Lancs)  (source Marriage/Death Cert).  The 1901, 1911 Ireland Census shows they did not have children. 
13 May 1894 St Mary’s Kirkdale, Walton on the Hill, Liverpool – Walter H MCNEA married Mary Robina ROUTLEDGE.  They had a son, Walter Hunter MCNEA b 1895 Liverpool. (source Marriage, Death Certs, UHF report)
Mary Ann MCNEA – WH Mcnea’s 1902 medical records showed Mrs Fryd had 9 children.  Thinking that sadly one had died, I checked the freebmd website and found that Alexander and Herbert were one and the same person. 
Elizabeth Grace MCNEA – her death certificate describes her as ‘spinster daughter of James McNea, an architect’.
The sources for the *births in Belfast are from the baptism parish registers of Shankhill Parish Belfast, St Annes Church of Ireland 1824-66 (UHF report).  The details of deaths are from the death certificates I obtained.  As far as I can see, only Mary and Walter had children.  Hattie and Grace and Clara Maud all have ‘daughter of James McNea Architect’ on their death certificates.  Walter has ‘Father -  James McNea Architect’ on the marriage certificate, so I know I have got the right family and not cousins.
William Gibson MCNEA – he is named on the 1902 medical file of WH McNEA (b.1861) as one of his siblings.  Mary Anne MCNEA is shown as Mrs Mary Fryd on the same document.

James MCNEA
Birth:.1815 – age 30 years at time of marriage to Margaret HUNTER in 1845
Father: James MCNEA, Farmer (according to James McNEA’s  marriage certificate)
Marriage & Children: see details for Margaret HUNTER
Occupation: Architect: see also website of Irish Architects, Irish Architectural Archive for descriptions of building he undertook. 
Further info on addresses in Belfast, business and residential on lennonwylie website (ctrl F search McNea)
First appears in England Lancashire Census in 1891 as do the spinster daughters.
Death: 5 Jan 1896, Crosby, Lancs.  Buried in Anfield Cemetery, Liverpool.  Family members also in same plot include Margaret (wife) and daughters Eliz. Hatti and Maud.  Also Henry Nash and Margaret Nash, although the description on the death certificate I have for Margaret Nash shows her more likely to be Henry’s sister than his wife Margaret (nee McNea).

Sorry if it is all scrunched up, wasn't when I typed it!
Rgards Sue

[susanroscoe]

Margaret Hunter (b1819)
Info that may be helpful in going back further in search of forbears of Margaret HUNTER (b. 1819)
You'll have to delete the 'Grand' and insert 'brothers and sisters' for Aunts and Uncles!

The 1902 Medical record of her son Walter H McNEA (1861-1902) gave the following information:
Family History
Maternal Grandfather: died age 80 years, cayse if death - old age
Maternal Grandmother: died age 70 years, cause of death
Maternal Uncles and Aunts: 12 in the family, all died between ages of 60 and 80.  They went to America.

[susanroscoe]

James MCNEA, Architect (b. 1815)
Info that may help in search of forbears of James McNea.
You'll have to delete 'Grand', also exchange  'brothers' and 'sisters' for aunts and uncles!

The 1902 medical history of his son, Walter H McNEA (1861-1902), gave the following information:
Family History section:
Paternal Grandfather: died age 30 years, cause of death - fever
Paternal Grandmother: died age 90 years, cause of death - old age
Paternal Uncles: died - one aged 70 years, one aged 72 years
Paternal Aunt:  died age 70 years

[susanroscoe]

I clicked 'post' instead of 'reply' so if my info on James MCNEA and Margaret HUNTER can't be read, please shout! 
susan

[DianeMF]

Just been doing a bit of FRYD family research and saw you're grandfather was Frederick (b. 1876). He's also my husband's great-grandfather (via Charles F M Fryd b. 1907). Just wondering what line you decend from.

[AlisonT]

Hi Susan and Mick, and now Diane?
I haven't been able to get on with Family History for some while, but thought I must check here in Roots Chat, and what do I find? All this marvelous info. Many many thanks. If you need any details on the now 98 descendants of  my grandparents Frederick William Fryd and Lavinia Mary Bishop, please let me know. I will try to attach a photo of supposedly Mary Anne McNea Fryd when I learn how!
Alison

[DianeMF]

Would love to see a photo. Good to find some other Fryd family out there.

[AlisonT]

Hi Diane,
I suspect you are married to Jonathon, who is the son of my oldest cousin, Richard. My sister is Rachel, who also has old family photos, and it might be easier for you to get copies from her. Glad someone else in the family appears to be interested in Family History.

Hi Susan, yes I verified that my Mary Ann McNea m. Carl Edward FRYD and her father was James McNea, so she "fits"

Hi Mike, I think I know where you fit into the FRYD tree too. I visited Aunt Clarice many years ago and she helped with information about her siblings.

I will check out any Aussie connections ie William Gibson McNea, did he stay here I wonder?  Didn't one of Aunt Clarices sons go to live in New Zealand?

Regards Alison