Missing my g-grandmother Mary Ann McNea

[AlisonT]

All I know of Mary Ann McNea is that, in the 1881 Census she is ?30 years old, married to Edward FRYD  (aged 36) and states that she was born in Belfast. Her first of the seven children named , Emil McNea FRYD was also born in Belfast.  She "got married in the Falls Road" so the family story goes. Any help would be appreciated.

[OTTO]

All I know of Mary Ann McNea is that, in the 1881 Census she is ?30 years old, married to Edward FRYD  (aged 36) and states that she was born in Belfast. Her first of the seven children named , Emil McNea FRYD was also born in Belfast.  She "got married in the Falls Road" so the family story goes. Any help would be appreciated.

Carl Edward Fryer married Mary Ann McNea 28th July 1869 at Saint Mary's Church of Ireland, in the parish of Shankill, Belfast.

will look for more  info....

A male child was born to this couple on 15th July 1870  in Belfast No3 district..
Father's name recorded as  Carl Edward Fryd, mother as Mary Ann McNea. There is no Chriistian name recorded for the child.

Further info. A Florence M M Fryd was born to this couple in 1871. The details can be purchased from www.ancestryireland.co.uk if required. Florence Mary Margaret Fryd died in 1871.Details again available from mentioned website.

OTTO

[AlisonT]

Thanks for that , Otto.  Any information as to Mary Ann's birth date and thence who her parents and ? siblings were would also be a great help.

[susanroscoe]

Mrs Mary FRYD appears as a sister to my great grandfather Walter Hunter MCNEA (b1861).  Her name appears in the Brothers and Sisters section of the 'Family History' on a 1902 medical file for him.  I thought I had the details of all his brothers and sisters from a parish register research done over 20 years ago.  But this medical document also shows a further brother - William Gibson MCNEA to add to the list.  I had a quick look on the Irish History Foundation website and a Mary Ann McNEA married in 1869 and her father's name is James McNea.  But to be absolutely certain you need to get hold of a copy of her marriage certificate.  My Great Great Grandfather was James MCNEA, an Architect  and his wife was Margaret Hunter.  Once you have a copy of the certificate, let me know and I will send you a list of the other brothers and sisters.
As an aside, when researching MCNEAs in the London Gazette, I came across Emil McNea Fryd - if you haven't seen this already, just google London Gazette and do a search.
I have only just registered on this site in order to answer your query so not sure about the etiquette etc about further info.  I see Otto has posted, if he reads this I hope he will let me know.

[mickshobby]

Mary Ann McNea - I did post a summary but being new to the system did not hit the reply button, however we share the same g-grandmother along with many others; she had ten children!

Mary Ann was born in Belfast in 1847 and died in West Ham in 1925. She maried Carl Edward Fryd in Dublin where her first child Emil was born in 1870. Later they lived in Heaton Chapel, Cheshire where Carl Edward is listed as a Provision Merchant and Agent. Later she lived in Prittlewell at 'Elsinore' in Hamlet Court Road, Now part of Southend on Sea. Her other children were Wilhelmina 1872, Edward 1873, Blanche 1874, Frederick 1876, Walter 1878 - 1956, Clarice 1880, Alex 1883, Herbert 1884, Ernest 1887. Carl Edward Fryd died in 1891.

I would be interested in any information relating to Mary Ann's parents or siblings.

I hope this is of help
Mickshobby

[AlisonT]

Thanks to both Susan and Mick for posts. Frederick 1876 was my grandfather. My daughter has just produced the 97th descendant of Frederick and Lavinia. 
I am also new to this site, so not sure of the protocol. May I ask your sources for the information you, and Otto have provided so I can obtain it/them for myself? My sister lives in UK but I'm downunder!
Regards, Alison

[mickshobby]

AlisonT

Glad to have been of help. My sources were a genealogical chart prepared in1970 by Bodil Fryd and her father that covers the Danish Family back to 1670. My great-aunt Clarice provided Bodil with the much of the information regarding her siblings. This was confirmed where it directly related to my line of descent by my Aunt Madge. I put it all aside for about 20 years as I was working abroad.

My children insisted that I should dig further as the family was awash with various legends and tall stories, this had much to do, according to my father, with our 'Irish side' and the Irish love of a good yarn. Some tales I have discovered to be founded on fact!

The increased access to digitised information has helped as I have been able to access Danish records as well as the Census information up to 1911. Records of Births, Marriages and Deaths enabled me to verify much of my direct interest. For some reason I was aware that Frederick's wife was named Lavinia, but know little about any other descendants of Mary Ann other than Walter's descendants of which at my last estimate total only 16. One of Mary Ann's children emigrated to Canada where I had a very brief contact, through business, with the wife of one of his sons who had a typing agency.  I believe another emigrated to New Zealand just after or before WW1, but have been unable to verify this.

[susanroscoe]

Alison and Mick - thank you for the info.  I am in the process of updating my file on James McNea and children with the info I have found out recently.  I hope to load it onto this post sometime today.  All my sources are Ulster Historical Society searches done for my parents 30+ years ago - file no longer held by them.  Also birth/marriage/death certificates to ensure that they were of the same family and not cousins!  Some details appear in Census. 
But especially for you Alison 'down under', google Wm Gibson McNea Apprentice 17 and you will see him appear on an 1877 passenger list from London to Sydney.  Also on Ancestry it shows an entry for an assisted passage to NSW. I don't have a subscription to Ancestry so will have to wait till I visit the library next week to take a look.
Till then, kind regards Sue

[mickshobby]

Susan

Many thanks for the information it has filled some gaps. It helps to establish Mary Ann's position in the family history.

Oddly, although in my parent's generation there were many jokes about our 'Irish' heritage, particularly a tendency to improve an already good story, Mary Ann, my father's grandmother was described as a Scot. I was therefore surprised to discover from the 1901 Census that she was from Belfast. The confusion was further emphasised because my grandmother's sister married an Irish schoolmaster whose family originally came from Waterford. Of course, no genetic connection, although the sisters were very close and he did have a great influence on my parent's generation.

Fairly obviously Mary Ann McNea from Ulster would have been what in the US would be described as Scot-Irish and the Scot part came down to my generation, but not the Irish.

Thanks again, Mick