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KING- Melbourn
« on: Tuesday 27 July 10 18:22 BST (UK) »
I am really stuck, any help very much appreciated

Trying to find a burial of Mary King and a marriage of Elizabeth? to Robert King

Robert King (bac) married Mary Baker (sp) both of this parish at Melbourn on 14th Oct 1788. In 1805 on 6 Jan at Melbourn PC a number of Kings were baptised as being of Robert and Mary. They were John (b 16/6/1790), Lydia (b 12/11/1792), Elizabeth (b 4/9/1794), James (b 23/4/1796), Ann
(b 4/3/1798), and Joseph (b 2/3/1800).

On the same day and date Ellis (b 8/11/1804) was also baptised but as being of Robert and Elizabeth.

My theory is that Mary must have died some time after the birth of Joseph. Robert then married Elizabeth and she had all her step children baptised at the same time as her first born.
Robert and Elizabeth went on to have other children that were also baptised at Melbourn PC - William (b 15/4/1806), Susanna (b 21/5/1808), and Sarah (b 24/3/1810). In 1817 at Melbourn Independent chapel, Frederick was also baptised as being of Robert and Elizabeth.

Robert King died 5 Jan 1837 aged 72, and is buried at Melbourn Independent chapel, so he would have been born approx 1765.

Elizabeth died 1848 in Melbourn aged 66. She is described on the death certificate as relict of Robert King ( Baker).

Elizabeth is a baker on the 1841 census.
Robert and Elizabeth were not married at Melbourn or Meldreth


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Re: KING- Melbourn
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 August 10 10:08 BST (UK) »
Baptism Melbourn Cambs

Robert King
06 th Jan 1766
Father-James King
Mother-Mary

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Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
Pyett-Suffolk
Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
Roberts-Pembroke Dock

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Re: KING- Melbourn
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 August 10 12:59 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for this information.......but where on earth did you find it?  I have scoured the original register, the transcripts on the shelves at the record office and I have the CD of Melbourn etc registers.

There was a marriage of James King and Mary Ellis at Meldreth PC on 3 March 1761. I had long thought they might be Roberts parents and also the connection with Mary's surname as christian names down the generations.

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 August 10 18:41 BST (UK) »
From the new record search pilot on Family Search

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Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
Pyett-Suffolk
Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
Roberts-Pembroke Dock


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Re: KING- Melbourn
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 August 10 19:32 BST (UK) »
Thank you again, I really do appreciate your time and effort.

Can anyone search this and if so how does one go about it?  Am I right in thinking that this is part of the IGI, where anyone once upon a time anyone could submit an entry without proof?

I don't want to look a gift horse etc, but if I have not found the baptism in any of the sources listed in my last post, and others over the years that have transcribed the registers, then I have to assume that someone has put that entry in without anything to substantiate it.

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 August 10 19:35 BST (UK) »
no its not member submitted.its subscribed from the parish records i believe.Dosent say what Church though so could be non conformist ?
Take a look yourself
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Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
Roberts-Pembroke Dock

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Re: KING- Melbourn
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 August 10 21:05 BST (UK) »
Thank you again, the Melbourn Kings have a history of being non conformists. The Independent aka Congregational chapel records are very sketchy and do not survive for that period. The only other place could be the Baptist church, but I'm sure I looked at their records years ago and had no luck.

Would someone who visits the record office be able to confirm if this entry exists please?

Robert King
06 th Jan 1766
Father-James King
Mother-Mary

This info is so tantalising, especially as it gives a day, it has got to of come from somewhere........but where?





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Re: KING- Melbourn
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 August 10 03:44 BST (UK) »
This entry is on the BVRI, so is not a member submission. It's LDS film number 990256 which is a transcription from the original registers, compiled and indexed by T. P. R. Layng.

I have always found his transcripts to be very reliable. I don't know if he compared the PR to the BT - have you also looked at the BT as occasionally entries were added to the BT which aren't in the PR?

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Re: KING- Melbourn
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 August 10 11:57 BST (UK) »
I'm sure I looked at the BT's along with the original register, but as I say that was some years ago.

I think its time I had another visit to Cambridge Record Office.

Thank you again for all the help given. I will report back with my findings incase it may help someone else.


ETA, Why can't I find this entry on the normal IGI?  I am having probs loading whats needed for the pilot search that welsh lady suggested.