Where was Bug Hole,Dudley?

[Trees]

Medpat are you the owner of the An..try Lloyd family tree? If so you ill be interested to know that Ann Baker born ant 1850 is in the tree. She was daughter of Charlotte Share and John Baker

GRO Reference: 1850  S Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 18  Page BAKER, ANN    mother's maiden name SHARE

1851
HO107/2032 fo575 p45

Charlotte was mentioned here reply  27, Tuesday 19 May 20 11:39 BST (UK) she was the daughter of the Samuel and Sarah Share that rekindled this topic

[Trees]

Now this is interesting in 1861RG 9/2058 fo 22 p 2 Ann Baker is with Daniel and Sarah Baker(formally Share nee Whitehouse)as grand daughter and they have a servant Selina Hickman I wonder was there a commection to your Hannah Hickman Medpat? Was Ann the granddaughter of Daniel or Sarah? Seems a daft question but Ann was daugther of Charlotte Share ie Sarah's Daughter and her husband  John Baker who as yet I have not been able to connect to Daniel Baker. Has anyone else managed to connect them?

[medpat]

I am the owner of that tree and Ann married my Joseph Lloyd and they had 2 children. I don't look at inlaws so don't have her parents but have the marriage banns on my tree naming her father as John Baker.

[medpat]

Well the grandson is named Daniel. The children could be both their grandchildren via both their parents.

[Trees]

So if I've got this right
Ann Baker daughter of Charlotte SHARE who in turn was daughter of Samuel SHARE and Sarah nee Whitehouse married Joseph LLOYD Ann died in 1874 and Joseph then married Sarah Taylor nee SHARE who had been born in PA in about 1855.
This Sarah first married a TAYLOR and had two children Samuel born in PA bout 1875 and Annie born in Dudley in 1878
So who were American Sarah's parents?
Just to add to the confusion John Share son of Samuel and Sarah nee Whitehouse married a Mary Lloyd in 1837 how does she fit in?

(Josep LLOYDand Ann Baker's marriage is on Free Reg)

[alancfradgley]

My great grammar born 1850 in America her farther was Samuel Share 1831/1896 her mother Ann Brown 1834/1862 her first husband Joseph Taylor dob 1842 they married in 1868 .when Sarah was born her mother was 16 and her father was 19

[alancfradgley]

Bug hole after about 1861 became Low Town were some of my relations lived

[Trees]

Well done alancfradgley now we are getting ther

At the Church of St Mary in the Parish of Kingswinford  in the county of Stafford
1852   Jany 26 1852
   Samuel SHARE   full   Bachelor   Miner   The Oak   Joseph  SHARE   Miner
?   X Ann BROWN   full   Spinster   Tailoress   The Oak   Benjamin BROWN   Miner
   Church St Mary by rites of Established Church after banns   George GILBANK
   In presence of    X Thomas MASON   X Sarah SMITH

1841 HO107/1196/11 fo18 p29 Ann Brown was age 7 with Benjamin and Sarah Brown
As you can see they were  being shy about their ages at the wedding!Their daughter Sarah however was baptised in the UK unless she died and they had another in the US

Sarah SHARE
 Birth:       17 AUG 1854
Christening:  08 FEB 1857      Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
 Father:    SAMUEL SHARE
 Mother:  ANN

There are other  baptisms:
Joseph SHARE
 Birth:      22 APR 1858
Christening:  13 JUN 1858      Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
 Father:    SAMUEL SHARE
 Mother:  ANN

Samuel SHARE
Birth:      27 NOV 1861
Christening:   06 APR 1862   St Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Father:   SAMUEL SHARE
Mother:   ANN

So they came back around 1856/7

[Trees]

Medpat you have shown a marriage for her and Joseph Lloyd giving her father as SAMUEL
This fits with what alancfradgley has just told us
So were there two Samuel and Anns those baptisms don't realy bear out the USA part of the story.

But on n her Llooyd cencuses she is born IN PA about 1855 the date is ok for the Dudley baptism

alancfradgley how sure are you of Sarah being born 1850 not 1854 this all fits rather well even the delay in her baptism could indicate they were away at the time of her birth