Help with Hoy/Orr 1882 marriage please

[jule]

Could anyone please help me interpret my grandmother's Australian birth certificate. It states that on 26th June 1882 ,her parents, William Joseph Hoy, mariner, from Island Magee, married Maggie Orr from Bellacarry. It also says she was born in Bellacarry. I suspect that the Aussie registrar misunderstood her lovely Irish accent and Maggie was actually from Ballycarry. This is my first post.....but I find I am already addicted to researching. Does it get steadily worse or will I be able to get it under control and leave this computer??? William Hoy's story is an interesting one (to me anyway!)...he survived a shipwreck (SS Atlantic 1873) and went on to name Blackhead NSW  after Blackhead in Ireland .

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
    Welcome to Rootschat. Your guess appears to be correct. On 26 June 1882 William Hoy married Margaret Orr in Ballycarry Presbyterian Church, Larne District.

Regards

[jule]

Thankyou so much......you have made my day as I didn't know where to turn next. If it's not too much trouble, do you have any advice about where I could look to find out Margaret Orr's mother's name...?(Her father was William.) I know that William Hoy's  parents were James and Jane Reid and that they were married on 5th August 1841 on Islandmagee. Would Margaret's birth certificate have that information as it does in Australia? I believe she was born in 1850.  Any help you could give would be much appreciated.
Cheers and thanks
Julie

[BallyaltikilliganG]

I tried and got 3 results for Hoy with Co Antrim backgrounds, but not himself
http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=hoy&srch_forename=&srch_identityno=&submit=Search

From http://www.ancestryireland.com/quis_advanced.php, the only 1882 marriage is
HOY WILLIAM 1882 whose father was JAMES Co Antrim which includes Belfast there are 3 Margaret Orr marriages in that year see the entries for 2nd first names {Isee this is well answered for you by kingskerswell above}

The Hoy surname dates back to at least 1766 in Co Antrim see http://www.nifhs.org/resultsgse.htm?cx=001321074483746896263%3A_fnnbh09wn4&q=hoy&sa=Search&cof=FORID%3A11#475

Have you seen the irish entries for Hoy at http://genforum.genealogy.com/

There were Hoys living in 1901  in Castletown (Islandmagee, Antrim)

In Griffiths valuation published 1861  http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_start.php
there are No Hoy’s in Islandmagee, but there are Hoeys, a James in Castletown townland, a William in Ballycronan More{an Orr is living here}, another in Ballydown. Note there are 2 others Orrs living in different townlands There is also an Orr living in Ballycarry {south} Templecorran parish
If It was me I would treat the Hoey spelling seriously, no matter why it was changed.
This website has maps showing actual boundaries of homesteads etc

Blackhead has had a lighthouse for along time see photos on google. It is just NE of Whitehead. I think it is within Castletown townland
I would also be trying emeraldancestors and familysearch and its pilot database
Good luck onwards
Jim

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
    There will be no Birth certificate for Margaret Orr if she was born before 1864 as that is when Civil registration of births started in Ireland. You will have to depend on church records. I have looked at Griffiths Valuation for Larne district (1861) and it lists a William Orr in Ballycarry. He was a shopkeeper and also rented a small amount of land.
    A marriage which I found for William Orr which is possible was on 4 Nov 1848 to Agnes Morrison in Ballycarry Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church.

Regards

[jule]

Again, many thanks to you both for your prompt and welcome replies... very kind. Still learning how to navigate this site, becoming more addicted by the hour, thanks to all this wonderful information and the new websites suggested. I'll get straight onto it! Cheers Julie

[TheWhuttle]

The HOY surname derives from the island of that name - one of the Orkney Isles to the North of Scotland. 
Many such incoming folks adopted the Irish surname of HOEY (a form of HAUGHEY).

Ref: The Book of Ulster Surnames by Robert Bell, Blackstaff Press  pp91-93

[helenar]

Jule

Not sure if you have seen the 1901 census, there are only two Orr families in Ballycarry

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

[jule]

Thanks Whuttle and Helenar, Your help is much appreciated. Need more hours in the day to spend at this lovely task! Cheers Julie