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Re: Help with Irish photo
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 07 August 10 10:27 BST (UK) »
Hope you don't mind, sent e-mail and copy of photo to Lafayette to ask if it is one of their photos.  Got answer back it is definitely a Lafayette photo, but the person who would know more about the photo is on holiday, so it will be sometime next week before they get back to me.

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Re: Help with Irish photo
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 07 August 10 10:29 BST (UK) »
Well done Rathmore - that one step closer.  :)
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Re: Help with Irish photo
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 10:44 BST (UK) »
Gwen at Lafayette think it says - Fear Michael Higgins 23/5/23 but they are still looking.

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Re: Help with Irish photo
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 13:02 BST (UK) »
Gwen at Lafayette think it says - Fear Michael Higgins 23/5/23 but they are still looking.
Can see where it possibly says Fear Michael but can't see Higgins as the last part.
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Re: Help with Irish photo
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 12 August 10 10:57 BST (UK) »
Came across a military site photos of The Royal Dublin Fusiliers - Mission to the USA 1925/27dress in the same uniform as your Patrick.  Sent them a e-mail with photo.  Got e-mail back will forward to
Officer in Charge, Military Archives, Cathal Brugha Barracks, Rathmines, Dublin 6.
but they will want a written letter as well.   This department deals with all enquires.
I ask did most of the men have their photos taken.  You will have to write to them at the above address.  Saying that Hannah sent a e-mail on the 11.08.2010. and was told to write to them.
If most of the men and women had their photos taken it is more likely they will be able to tell you wants written on the photo, if and when you find out want is written please let us all know.

http://Http://www.military.ie/dfhq/archives/contact/htm

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Re: Help with Irish photo
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 12 August 10 11:25 BST (UK) »
The other site is
http://wapedia.mobi/en/irish_army#1.

this is the Irish National Army, Beggar's Bush Barracks Dublin 1922

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Re: Help with Irish photo
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 12 August 10 11:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Hannah,

You've gone to a lot of trouble. I really appreciate the time you've taken to enquire about the photo, on two counts.

I actually emailed the Military Archives last week about the photo, but have yet to get a response. Perhaps a letter would be better still.

I'll report back if I get anything concrete from them.

Thanks again,
Dave (daisymershum)

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Re: Help with Irish photo
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 09 September 10 18:51 BST (UK) »
Mystery solved! The Military Archives in Cathal Brugha Barracks emailed me back, and cleared everything up!

Turns out my dad was wrong and it is not a photo of my grand uncle, Captain Patrick Mervyn.

Hugh in the archives said: 'I have checked the photo and it is actually a portrait of General Sean McMahon, the Chief of Staff of the Free State Army from August 1922 until March 1924. The writing at the bottom is his signature, so it is a nice photograph to have!
 
'The rank markings on the collar are a sign of a senior Staff Officer. Captain Mervyn would have had three bars specifically on his shoulder flashes.'

It turns out my grand uncle worked closely with Sean McMahon during his time in the army (1922-1926).

Patrick was Staff Officer in Chief of Staff’s Department, General Headquarters, and Personal Staff Officer to General Officer Commanding, Southern Command, Major General Sean McMahon.'

Hugh told me: 'Captain Mervyn would have been involved with clerical work in both Offices that he worked in. Major General McMahon was actually Chief of Staff (COS) during part of Capt Mervyn’s time in the Chief of Staff’s Office. General Richard Mulcahy was COS before that (he went on to be Commander in Chief after Collins’ death during the Civil War) and General Peadar McMahon was COS after that.
 
'Maj Gen McMahon asked for Capt Mervyn to be transferred down to him as his Personal Staff Officer (PSO) once he returned to Southern Command as General Officer Commanding (GOC), as the captain was familiar with the type of work involved.
 
'This work would have ranged from secretarial type work, to escort duty, liaison with various committees and Corps, and basically any work that the GOC might throw at him. The Captain who works here has had experience as a PSO to a Force Commander on one of the UN missions, and he says that he has never been so busy!'

Nice of him to go to the trouble. Thanks again to all who made suggestions. Would be interested to find out more about Sean McMahon.