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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #306 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 01:07 BST (UK) »
I found Richmond Buildings and Richmond Mews on this old map, just to the left of the bottom left corner of the big red "H". Richmond Buildings is directly off Dean St and then Richmond Mews runs south from Richmond Buildings and parallel with Dean St.
http://www.oldlondonmaps.com/stanfordpages/westminster03b.html

I believe it is the same today.

So the 'tablet' mentioned would be on the the one remaining end of Richmond Buildings facing Dean St?

I have just had a look on google maps street view and note that there is only an old building on one side of the entrance to Richmond buildings - it is No 80.  :) The other side is an ugly modern structure. I have amended my previous post to correct my mistakes.  ;) And yes, I believe this is possibly what remains of the south side of Richmond Buildings facing Dean St.

I have also been thinking about Nathaniel's mother Mary who we cannot find in the 1841 census, though when she marries she says she is from Dean St. I wonder if she lived in a part of Richmond Buildings facing Dean St? We know Matthew Ward was living in Richmond Buildings in the 1841 census and when he married Mary his address was Richmond Buildings. I wonder if Mary preferred to say her address was Dean St to appear more respectable and so it didn't seem as though they were living together?  ;)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #307 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 01:46 BST (UK) »
morning Ruskie


You have a point re Mary Bryceson nee Shepard in 1841 ...What if she was with Matthew Ward and told him not to mention her and Nathaniel .... or NB was being babysat by the Vaggs and just became part of the Vagg family in the 1841.

Iam still a little upset that furture researchers will take the Nathaniel Bryceson with mother Ann and sibs in 1841 as fact.... when we know it's not him

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Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #308 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 01:56 BST (UK) »
I wish we could get hold of Steven to let him know of Mongibello's find! He is going to be sooooo excited and grateful!

as Steven would say ..

Peace and Joy


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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #309 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 02:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb, Didn't you see that Tedscout made a correction to the correction for Nathaniel Bryan?  ;D Plus a nice little explanatory note.  ;D

Steve you're right, I can't go down Richmond Buildings or Richmond Mews on Google Streetview. Looking around the area there are still some old buildings remaining and looking at the drawing and photo of RIchmond Buildings, you can see that some look very similar to Richmond Buildings (just to give us all an idea of how they must have looked  :))

An interesting entry again today. How times have changed.

Steven said he was going to be away for a couple of weeks. I don't have facebook, but if anyone does and wishes to tell Steven about the discovery of the graves, could you do it via facebook? Not sure how it all works as I'm not a member. I'm thinking he may continue to check facebook while he's away. I'd love him to hear the good news.


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #310 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 02:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruskie

I am so glad Ancestry has has let it be noted that the 1841 is in error or rather that there is another explanation for that family!!



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Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #311 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 02:26 BST (UK) »
Yeah, at least it's something.

Hey Deb, do you think it would be worth chasing up that woman again? Maybe a simple question like:
"which one of Nathaniel Bryceson's children is she (or her husband or whoever) descended from"? Not sure she's be interested in answering a barrage of questions. I'm just curious and there may be photos somewhere.  ;)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #312 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 02:39 BST (UK) »
I have just come back from outside and was thinking of 'out of the box

John Shepard/Sheperd/Shepherd Bryceson's 2nd wife was Gertrude  (John s/o Nat b 1860)...I saw that Gertrude Bryceson remarried a guy called Mason  ( a few years after JSB died).....I know it's a long shot but maybe some of the Mason kids may have photos etc ...

Ruskie Snap on the photo idea ... the woman (who chhanged the 1841) was from Wales ...I am still wondering if the organ maker people/Brycesons were part of the family ...but and a big BUT ...is that the Brycesons are not blood rellies ...Nathaniel comes from the WHITE family ...BRYCESON has NOTHING to do with NATHANIEL!

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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