The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)

[Siamese Girl]

Linda - you may be onto something! I've wondered about Schlencker (along with just about every other surname beginning with "S)

There is an 1824 PCC will of a George Schlencker transcribed on the web. No wife mentioned so she must have died previously. Three sons Thomas, Jacob and George. George was a sugar refiner of Crombies Row Commercial Road East, and the will was translated from the French which might give a clue about where that family came from. He is probably the same George who married Mary Touse at St Mary Whitechapel in 1782

All  three sons carried on sugar refining Thomas (a widower) married Sarah Martin in 1818. I can't see marriages for Jacob and George but Jacob/Ann and George/Sarah were all having children in the 1810s/20s.

Carole

[Ruskie]

I hate the weekends - no time for research. It's almost 7pm and this is the first time I've had a chance to pop in to see what's happened today. 

Just want to quickly tell you Carole that I had a look at Thomas Turner's diary online last night. It's got me interested already - I like the entries where he says that he went to bed drunk.  I might buy Sarah Hurst's though I already know what happens in the end (she gets her man).

Yes alpine, I've not read the diary , but I believe that Samuel Pepys was a VERY naughty boy. 

I remember you mentioned Schlencker quite some time ago Carole. It could be worth delving further. Might this possible European connection fit in with the church Mrs S attends?

[Siamese Girl]

I haven't got any further, but it did make me think how different our two worlds are. Then people only used surnames - even to the extent that someone might call their married sister Mrs Smith (or whatever her name was). Miss Wood and Mrs Schlencker really aren't very helpful. A LOT of people called Miss Wood got married in church in 1846. Today we just seem to use first names. My new neighbours just introduced themselves by their first names. It was only when I took a package in for them a year later that I learnt their surname.

Carole

[Dinkydidy]

Nat must be the equivalent of today's "gym junkies"!! Out all day, walking 30 miles, gets home, is presumably a bit bored because Granny's not home, and what does he do? Goes for another walk!     

What it is to be young and fit!! (And no TV, of course.  )

You would think he must have VERY strong boots, but he mentions elsewhere just walking in his smart new shoes. Must wear out a lot of shoe leather on those rough old roads!

Didy

[Ruskie]

Amazing wasn't he Didy?  It must have passed the time and I suppose a leisurely 12 1/2 hour stroll on a nice day looking at interesting things along the way wouldn't be too much of an effort.   

I originally wondered why he and Ann met in the morning then parted, but I imagine that Ann had more sense and didn't relish the idea of spending her Sunday on a 30 mile walk.  I also wonder why he didn't put his evening meeting with Ann in shorthand. (perhaps a mistake by the 'translators'?  )

At least in today's entry we have a few names to investigater further, unfortunately Nat is polite and calls them 'Miss' - so makes the search difficult for us.

[Deb! Ann/Eliza Thomas is visiting Mary again!  ]

[Ruskie]

Well it seems there is no such surname as "Manodes" - neither in the censuses or on Freebmd .... 

I wonder if this might be "Vineyard Lodge"?:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/09ay/

 

[forthefamily]

Hey he was walking in my old neighbourhood.........last time I was there was about 20 years ago.

"At half past 7 o’clock through Lambeth, Battersea, Wandsworth, ...."

My brother was born in Battersea and I was born in Wandsworth 

mab

[Ruskie]

Hey he was walking in my old neighbourhood.........last time I was there was about 20 years ago.

"At half past 7 o’clock through Lambeth, Battersea, Wandsworth, ...."

mab

 

I've been trying to track down Vineyard Lodge. I just googled the name, and found mention of it on the 1881 census with a Sedgwwick family living there. He was a 'laundryman' so I was unsure if this is the right place. I originally thought it would be too posh for a laundryman to be living there, but looking at his neighbours in the census, some of them are artists, foreman etc, so maybe this is the right Vineyard Lodge. I had a look at the neighbours in the 1881 and found some streets which still exist today - such as Paradise Road, The Hermitage, Red Lion Street and others ... There is also a road called The Vineyard and Halford St which makes me think I might be on the right track as there is a Vineyard Lodge and a Halford House on the 1881. 
My list according to the 1881 enumerators walk:
Paradise Rd
Suffield House
Eton Lodge
Eton Tce
Vestry Cott
Halford Place
Vineyard Lodge
Halford House
Church Coll
Church Tce
The Hermitage
Church House
Red Lion St
Long's Cottages
Red Lion St
Prospect Place
Red Lion St
etc
(some lovely houses on some of the streets ... 

Can anyone find Vineyard Lodge in 1841 /51 to see who was living there? The path may be different in 1851.

[forthefamily]

What census district number did the Sedgewick family live in 1881 .......give us the census reference points........although that probably wouldn't be relevant in 1841/1851 but it would be a starting point.

mab