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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 22 July 10 14:28 BST (UK) »
Ruskie

I have just found a parish in Camden ....St George the Martyr, QUEEN STREET SQUARE ...having a look now ...

wish me luck

deb


Checked up until Dec 1812 in the above Parish (she may have had a late christening)...She's NOT there !!!!!

I think I will have to check all of Camden ...arrggggghhhhh  ::)

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 22 July 10 14:37 BST (UK) »
I've just had another look at Ann Fox in the 1851 census. Her place of birth still looks like 'Green St' or 'Queen St', but I had a look at a few other pages and none of them have such a specific place of birth - they seem to have the Parish rather than Street names. I know we've been over this already but I still I wonder if it could be something else? Does it look like the name of any known parish?

Also, can anyone read what is written for Ann in the "relationship to head" column. I have an idea what it says but would like others opinions.  ;)

Just got the red warning. Good work Deb. I hope she's there.  :)

#45. #44....Ann Fox, Lodger, age 49. Charwoman, Queen/Green  ??? Street....no marital status given or indicated.
(living in same building as Mary Eliz Kennington) at 27, Stephen Street, Saint Pancras, London, Marylebone,  Tottenham Court.


Daisy...I'm so sorry about your OH  :(

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Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 22 July 10 14:42 BST (UK) »
Ann Fox, Lodger, age 49. Charwoman, Queen/Green  ??? Street....no marital status given or indicated.
living with Mary Eliz Kennington at 27, Stephen Street, Saint Pancras, London, Marylebone,  Tottenham Court.
mab

Yes, I thought it was lodger too. What do those lines mean between Ann, Mrs Kennington and Mr Burns? Mr Burns is "head" and they're all at No 27 (along with many others). Perhaps seperate rooms?

Maybe we should wait till Steven comes back - I'm hoping he might be able to tell us if Fox is Ann's maiden name.

I suspect you're right about us having to check every church in every parish Deb. I wonder if anyone at Westminster Archives knows more about Ann?  :-\

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 22 July 10 14:46 BST (UK) »
Its says Mr Burn is "head" at # 43 and Mary E K is #44 so Ann maybe sublets a part of Mary E's  lodging space...so each of those numbers at 27 St Stephen represents rooms.

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Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 22 July 10 14:51 BST (UK) »
Deb...from looking at previous pages etc those numbers/lines seem to be assigned by the enumerator as a way of identifying "households' and or individuals within the buildings.

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Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 22 July 10 14:55 BST (UK) »
Yes, that makes sense mab.

I'm signing off now. Happy hunting everyone. Looking forward to tomorrow's diary entry - maybe Nat will give us a progress report on the puppies.  ;D

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #69 on: Thursday 22 July 10 15:12 BST (UK) »
Night Ruskie , sleep tight  ;D

Hi mab ...thanks for that ..I think when I posted those census details a thousand years ago I was just so very excited to have found her. The diary refers to both Mrs Kennington and Miss Olive ...strange thing was that we couldn't find Mrs Kennington in 1841.

We were also curious as to why NB would read his log book (of the previous year) to Mrs Ollive/Olive.

Deb wearing searching tiara  ;D
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 22 July 10 15:22 BST (UK) »
I wonder if this is Ann's death?

 Ann Fox
Dec q 1874
age 74
Chelsea
1a 231

In 1861 There is an Ann Fox In Essex ..living as a widow.

As you say, Ruskie, we have no idea if this is her given name or if she was in actual fact married/widowed prior to meeting NB.

deb

Deb there is an Ann Fox living in Chelsea in 1871 but she is married (husband William) and her place of birth is given as Norfolk....... :-\

mab
Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 22 July 10 15:40 BST (UK) »
Deb...I see the Ann Fox that you are referring to in 1861 and she seems to be the only one....what is her profession  ???....Bibb Woman  ??? Bibl  :P

Anyway........if she dies between 1851 and 1861 there are way too many possibles.

mab
Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan