The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)

[deb usa]

Morning all ...and what a great morning it is ....

Yipppeeeee ... she was 45 ...we have the right Ann.

deb

Daisy ... that is so sad ...my thoughts are with you and OH

[Ruskie]

I don't think any of us can be too shocked about Ann's age - this is something we've known almost since the beginning. It's just been confirmed, that's all.  

I can't see an Ann Fox born 9th Oct 1801 on the IGI. There are a few Ann Foxes around the right time in the right area though. So where do we start looking for her? I've made a tentative start at St Anne Soho - the PR's are set out oddly and I might be missing something. Another thing we don't know is - is Fox her maiden or married name?
Steven can you help us with this?  

Ann seems to be a regular at Tottenham Court Road Chapel - is this because it is convenient or does she have ties to the place? I did some digging but am still a bit confused - it was also called Whitefields Tabernacle, it was enlarged and rebuilt over the years but was destroyed in WW2. Then rebuilt in 1957 and currently houses the London Lutheran Church and the American Church in London. I have no idea if there are any Parish Records for the chapel or where they are held if they still exist.

Morning Deb! 

[deb usa]

I wonder if this is Ann's death?

 Ann Fox
Dec q 1874
age 74
Chelsea
1a 231

In 1861 There is an Ann Fox In Essex ..living as a widow.

As you say, Ruskie, we have no idea if this is her given name or if she was in actual fact married/widowed prior to meeting NB.

deb

[deb usa]

Ruskie

Ann seems to have spent most of her life at Stephen Street ... wasn't that Camden reg district? I'll search there for a birth.

I am  leaning towards her being a spinster 

[Ruskie]

I wonder if this is Ann's death?

 Ann Fox
Dec q 1874
age 74
Chelsea
1a 231

In 1861 There is an Ann Fox In Essex ..living as a widow.

As you say, Ruskie, we have no idea if this is her given name or if she was in actual fact married/widowed prior to meeting NB.

deb

Um, it could be her death - age is right but not sure about area. (Of course she could have moved.)   I'm hoping Steven may know if there is any mention of Ann's marital status later in the diary, and maybe he will let us know so we don't go off on a wild goose chase.  

Have you looked for the 1861 Essex Ann Fox in any earlier censuses to eliminate her?  

Yes Ann seemed to hang around Steven St, but she says she was born Queen St. There are LOADS of them all over Greater London. I'm going to have anohter look at her in the 1841 and 1851 ...

[deb usa]

Ruskie

I have just found a parish in Camden ....St George the Martyr, QUEEN STREET SQUARE ...having a look now ...

wish me luck

deb

[Ruskie]

I've just had another look at Ann Fox in the 1851 census. Her place of birth still looks like 'Green St' or 'Queen St', but I had a look at a few other pages and none of them have such a specific place of birth - they seem to have the Parish rather than Street names. I know we've been over this already but I still I wonder if it could be something else? Does it look like the name of any known parish?

Also, can anyone read what is written for Ann in the "relationship to head" column. I have an idea what it says but would like others opinions.  

Just got the red warning. Good work Deb. I hope she's there. 

[Siamese Girl]

Daisy I'm really sorry to hear that - all my best wishes to you both. The search for Nathaniel looks very trivial in comparison.


Anyway, a search on the City of London burial index on Findmypast for the burial of Ann Fox born 1801 plus or minus 10 years only gives one possible match - Ann Fox buried St James Clerkenwell 16 June 1851 aged 52 from the workhouse.

Carole

[Siamese Girl]

There are 30 GRO deaths registered for Ann Fox in Middlesex between 1851-1865 before ages started to be included 

Carole