The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)

[mouse49]

CONGRATULATIONS

You've all done a great job.

Maybe the restoration group will be able to get something from the photo. They have been known to work miracles.

Lois

[Mongibello]

Yes Sarah is at the top and it is just possible to make out "Na" twice below.    The rest has been flaked off by the action of ivy and frost.
Incidentally. comparing the Horwood map of c1800, which gives house numbers, with Google Earth, No. 9 Richmond buildings seems to have been replaced by a modern building.  Nos. 5 & 6 may be there.   I will have a look tomorrow.

[deb usa]

Mongibello


You MUST have been so excited  ...please thank the Islington Cemetery Staff for us!!!

deb

[Aniseed]

Wow!!!! Well done Mongibello! That's brilliant work on your part! Thanks ever so much for posting the photo too. Wow, I never thought I'd see his grave. It feels good to have 'found' him (even though I'm not descended from him, and I wasn't the one who did the finding, but it still feels great!).

[steve_gus]

Yes Sarah is at the top and it is just possible to make out "Na" twice below.    The rest has been flaked off by the action of ivy and frost.
Incidentally. comparing the Horwood map of c1800, which gives house numbers, with Google Earth, No. 9 Richmond buildings seems to have been replaced by a modern building.  Nos. 5 & 6 may be there.   I will have a look tomorrow.

Well found   - 4 richmond Mews is now the soho Hotel..... according to google maps.....but would be good to know if anything else is there.

[Ruskie]

I have just logged on this morning to the news that Nathaniel's grave has been found!  And we have a headstone albeit in fairly poor condition. 

Many many thanks to Mongibello for taking the time to locate, visit and take the photo of the grave, and thanks to the cemetery staff for their help. So Mongibello, was the grave easier to find than you expected? Did you tell the cemetery staff about the mission you were on to find Nathaniel? 

This is SO exciting! 

I realise that the headstone is no longer readable, but is there a chance that someone may have recorded the MI's from this cemetery? I would love to know what it says.

Of course to us Nathaniel is the star of the show, but remember that Steven has now found both of his ggggrandparents. 

Those two little saplings front of the stone could do with being removed - are we able to tidy up the area? Is there just the headstone, or might there be some more to this grave?

What a fabulous result. 

[Ruskie]

Incidentally. comparing the Horwood map of c1800, which gives house numbers, with Google Earth, No. 9 Richmond buildings seems to have been replaced by a modern building.  Nos. 5 & 6 may be there.   I will have a look tomorrow.

This is interesting. A while ago I looked down Richmond Buildings via street view on google maps.

I find this curious. When Nathaniel lived there was the street (or lane) called Richmond Buildings? Was the street called something else and just the building called Richmond Buildings with each of the seperate entrances to Richmond Buildings given a number? And within that building it seems that there were a number of rented rooms? Today the street is called Richmond Buildings - it looks like the whole street is modern builds, but at the entrance to the street (on either one side) are some is an older buildings which look like they it may have been around in 1846.

It was interesting to read that Richmond Buildings dated from the 1700's so they would have been old when Nathaniel and his family lived there.

A tiny photo from 1964 here:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41250#s1
(can someone clever enlarge this please?)

From the British History Online link provided earlier is this:
"...this cul-de-sac was built on the site of Cockpit Court ... Richmond Buildings was begun in 1732, the date inscribed on tablets on the return faces of no 80 Dean St and of No 80B Dean St ..."

There is an illustration of the tablet which reads:
Richmonds Buildings
1732
Rebuilt 1916

So am I right in thinking that Richmond Buildings was on both sides of the street and the ends of Richmond Buildings facing out to Dean St (and currently still the corners of Richmond Buildings and Dean Street) had these tablets afixed to them? So the buildings I saw on google maps which I thought looked old, may be the original 'ends' of Richmond Buildings? Mongibello, maybe if you go to RIchmond Buildings could you please check the buildings on the corner of Dean Street to see if there are is still a 'tablets' on the buildings, or maybe a clue which indicates that there may once have been a tablets on the ends of the buildings?

I will check my maps again, but sounds like Richmond Mews may later have been joined up with Richmond Buildings. No, it looking at an old map it seems that it was always a similar street layout to today.
 

[steve_gus]

my take, poss wrong, is that richmond buildings were in the street called (on my google map) richmond mews - assuming the street hasnt been renamed.

When I try streetview, you cant 'walk' down the st, only stand at the end. The building you can see at the end of the street looks very like the Soho Hotel, as per pics on its website

PS - isnt there some rule about a 20 page maximum?

EDIT : - Looking on www.multimap.com, it calls the first part of the st buildings, and the 2nd mews. Looks to me that none of the buildings look like the drawing posted in a ling 3 or so pages back. However, Multimap does allow you to 'fly' over and see 4 different views.... this one looks best.

[Ruskie]

my take, poss wrong, is that richmond buildings were in the street called (on my google map) richmond mews - assuming the street hasnt been renamed.

When I try streetview, you cant 'walk' down the st, only stand at the end. The building you can see at the end of the street looks very like the Soho Hotel, as per pics on its website

PS - isnt there some rule about a 20 page maximum?

I got sidetracked and haven't checked the map yet, but will do in in a minute.

Not a 20 rule as such, rather a recommended length. I will lock this and start Part 5 shortly.