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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #171 on: Thursday 29 July 10 15:08 BST (UK) »
That's great Deb - thanks. I'll be really interested to see what they have to say in response - assuming they will respond.  ;) I hope she is a descendant - we could do with finding a few cousins for Steven. What country is she in?

Steven said he was walking for 2 days. Probably resting his sore feet.  ;)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #172 on: Thursday 29 July 10 18:17 BST (UK) »
Hi all

I have received a reply :

Subject: RE: Nathaniel Bryceson

I have no idea whether Nathaniel Bryceson wrote a famous diary. I altered the entry because his Mother and siblings bear the correct names to be the wife (Ann) and children of Nathaniel Bryceson. I am not directly related - It is through a marriage into the family around 107 and I did some further research to trace the family.



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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #173 on: Thursday 29 July 10 19:09 BST (UK) »
I spent some time at Westminster Archives today without much success.   Also at the Probate Office to find that neither Nathaniel made a will.
However, all is redeemed by a visit to the Islington Cemetery in Finchley.
The entries of burials are in large ledgers, one for each year.    They are in alphabetical order then in month order, finally in order of burial.   There are no exact dates.
February 1911
Name: Bryceson Nathaniel; No. 138957; Abode (!) Royal Free Hospital; Class of grave, 3; Block V2 Grave 1229P   
Pretty sure this is the son as the register says he died in Islington & the RFH was there then.
March 1911
Name Bryceson Nathaniel; No. 139239; Abode, Dempsey St, Stepney; Class 2; V2; 1229P   
This must be our man as he is said to have died in Mile end Reg. district & that would be right.  Same grave you notice.    I will take some photos to show that that area of the cemetery is a jungle and it will be impossible to find the grave even if a stone exists[/i].

Dempsey St no longer exists. The luftwaffe made a lot of alterations in that area in the 1940s

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #174 on: Thursday 29 July 10 19:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Mongibello

Welcome to Rootschat and our 'slight obssession' with Nathaniel Bryceson!  ;D

Thank you so much for looking for us! Steven ( a descendant of NB) will be ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED!!!

I wonder what the Nathaniels died of ...poor family losing both within a month of each other.

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #175 on: Thursday 29 July 10 23:03 BST (UK) »
Dear all, Fabulous news about the grave finds! I thought I'd never find a grave in Abney Park but did so with the help of a volunteer with a stick! So, I live in hope as I would love to make pilgrimage to NB's grave! Peace and joy, Steven.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #176 on: Friday 30 July 10 00:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Steven

How was your "walk" ....  ;D

Dear all, Fabulous news about the grave finds! I thought I'd never find a grave in Abney Park but did so with the help of a volunteer with a stick! So, I live in hope as I would love to make pilgrimage to NB's grave! Peace and joy, Steven.

What grave did you find?

Did you see the response from the person who changed the 1841 census ...do you think there was another Nathaniel Bryceson that has been confused with 'ours'?

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #177 on: Friday 30 July 10 00:09 BST (UK) »
For Ruskie:


                                            WAKE UP!
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #178 on: Friday 30 July 10 00:55 BST (UK) »
I'm here now Deb!

(Just catching up).

I'm absolutely delighted that graves of both Nathaniels have been found!!!!!!! Fabulous work Mongibello! Thank you so much.

And of course, a very warm welcome to rootschat and our obsession with Nathaniel Bryceson.  ;D

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)
« Reply #179 on: Friday 30 July 10 00:58 BST (UK) »
Hi

Fantastic find for the grave

Here is a map of the cemetary

http://www.islington.gov.uk/DownloadableDocuments/Environment/Pdf/cemeteries/islingtonstpancras_cemetery_map.pdf

Confusing the way its labelled - looks to me that Nat might be in the bottom right hand corner between raleigh rd and parkers rd  (V in light grey, 2 in bold)

Looks quite wooded.........