The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 4)

[deb usa]

Morning everyone

Ruskie ...how very exciting !!!!

As we know, Westminster Archives are going to publish the diary in book form and have asked for our help to find any mistakes in the introduction on their website. The only thing I could find is the fact that they say that Granny Shepard, and Nathaniel's mother and step father had 'moved out' of Richmond Buildings by 1851. We know that both Granny Shepard and Mary Ward had died and Matthew Ward's whereabouts are unknown. Can anyone spot any more inaccuracies?


Their Website intro has less info than what was emailed to you a while back ...where they stated that Ann Fox was a middle aged woman ...I know there were a couple of mistakes there eg: That NB's dad was John Bryceson..... do they want us to check that too?  if so could you tell us where to find it again , perhaps in Part 3 ...

as far as lookups :
we  do not have Matthew Wards death/burial (although there are a couple possibles on the index)

I feel the need to reread the summaries and the Diary again 
deb .

[deb usa]

Hi again

from intro:
(maybe they could expand on this):

He was related to the proprietor, George Lea, through his grandmother. .... George was Granny's Nephew, NB's 2nd cousin

His mother Mary (born in 1797) .... we have her baptism

saw this too:
His wife Sarah died in 1890, leaving him with only a housekeeper by time of the 1901 census
she was Emma Morris, single, 64, b St Giles in the Field

deb

[Ruskie]

Hi Deb, Carole and Steve. 

Carole - it is only the intro they wanted checked for errors (so far at least). I did ask about Miss Manodes but haven't had a reply yet.

Steve - I agree, a map is essential - I'll pass that on to them. 

Deb - It is only the intro on the website they wanted checked, rather than that other intro I posted in part 2 or 3. That had numerous errors but you're right - it was the only mention of Ann being middle aged. I believe that 'other' introduction was written many years ago by an archivist at Westminster Archives. That was then amended and used as the basis of the current intro for the website. At one stage I mentioned to one of the Archivists that there were errors in the introduction (meaning the old one) and have now been asked to point out any errors in the website's intro. 

Deb, the first lookup I thought of was Matthew Ward's death - great minds think alike    I'm sure he must have died before 1851. Remember Nat is with Uncle John in 1851 and Granny Shepard is in the workhouse. 

I agree about expanding the Lea relationship too. 

I wonder if they fancy including a little 'family tree' in the book. I wonder how many living descendants they've found - and would they be allowed to include them?

Deb, you mention Emma Morris - do you think he and Nathaniel might have had a thing going on?  No seriously, you mentioning that made me wonder why they included this and not the fact that he was with his son Henry in the 1891 census. I'd say either include both or neither.

[deb usa]

Deb, you mention Emma Morris - do you think he and Nathaniel might have had a thing going on?  No seriously, you mentioning that made me wonder why they included this and not the fact that he was with his son Henry in the 1891 census. I'd say either include both or neither.

Ruskie ....  ... My exact same thoughts !!!! LOL especially as she is single ...maybe they played cards together or maybe NB was still going on long walks and taking her along ...

[deb usa]

another thought...

I wonder how we can clear up the 1841 census where someone has changed the name of Bryan (Ann plus kids including Nathaniel) to BRYCESON?

deb

[Ruskie]

Deb, you mention Emma Morris - do you think he and Nathaniel might have had a thing going on?  No seriously, you mentioning that made me wonder why they included this and not the fact that he was with his son Henry in the 1891 census. I'd say either include both or neither.

Ruskie ....  ... My exact same thoughts !!!! LOL especially as she is single ...maybe they played cards together or maybe NB was still going on long walks and taking her along ...

I thought you might have been thinking that! 

[Ruskie]

another thought...

I wonder how we can clear up the 1841 census where someone has changed the name of Bryan (Ann plus kids including Nathaniel) to BRYCESON?

deb

I'm not sure what the process is but I definitely think we should correct it. 

Are we able to add yet another change to the change that has already been made? Whoever made the change is obviously researching Nathaniel too, so I wonder if there is a way to contact them?

Has anyone made any changes to any transcriptions on Ancestry and can tell us how to go about it?

[Ruskie]

Historically an interesting entry today.

St Barnabas Church is on what is now St Barnabas Street. The street names must have changed since Nathaniel's time.
http://www.stbarnabaspimlico.org.uk/St_Bs/Welcome.html

I must say it is nice to see that it is still used as a church. 

What is now Pimlico Road runs into Ebury Bridge. St Barnabas St runs south from Pimlico Rd.
The part of Pimlico Road where the church is used to be Queen Street, but I cannot see a King St on Cross's 1861 map. A lot of the streets have changed over the years.

[deb usa]

morning Ruskie ...night time here 

Haven't read today's entry yet ..but will do soonish.

I would still like to know who NB's mum's friend was  ... Ann/Eliza

I have never contacted Ancestry regarding transcription errors although I would/Should have done so as I have seen some WHOPPER mistakes ...there has to be an easy way to do it...

deb