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« on: Wednesday 21 July 10 14:33 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone, I am searching for my GGFx6with not much luck. I contacted a person on the web who had access to parish records they said they found the baptism of the person I was looking for but it did not have any parentage is this common for early 1700s. I would be grateful for any response, Thanks Kenace.

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Re: baptisms
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 14:42 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat. You haven't given us any details (name, date, church, etc.) so it's difficult to know what sort of response you are hoping for here.
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Re: baptisms
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 14:44 BST (UK) »
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they found the baptism of the person I was looking for but it did not have any parentage is this common for early 1700s

well, not uncommon but more usual to have at least the Mothers name..

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Re: baptisms
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 15:12 BST (UK) »
Hi sorry for lack of info. my ggfx6 was john johnson baptised in holy trinity church bolton le sands lancs 1710, he was married at the same church in 1735 to ann sparling their abode is given as rishton house in the parish of bolton le sands would marriage register give parentage Thanks Kenace


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 15:15 BST (UK) »
As a very general rule I think that marriage registers for that date would probably only list date, bride and groom but you would need to check the actual church records to verify this.
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Re: baptisms
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 15:19 BST (UK) »
This marriage is on Lancashire OPc
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Bolton-le-Sands/index.html

I believe that the information on this site gives all the information from the register entry, no fathers names

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Re: baptisms
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 17:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Kenace, can't solve your problem, unfortunately, but I would tend to disagree with Mort29, in that I have found it more usual to see the name of the father on baptism records, rather than the mother (if only one name is given) - unless it is an illegitimate child in which case the mother's name would be given, eg John son of Thomas Johnson, baptised 29 February 1710.

I'm a bit dubious also about the marriage, although rosie99 says that it is on the Lancashire parish registers site, so that is good.  ;D The baptism entry I can find for John Johnson in 1710 shows no parents because it is a submitted record on IGI with no date either and is, perhaps, an assumption that men got married at the age of 25 (by which time they had completed their apprenticeships and had accumulated a little bit of money in order to be able to afford a wife), and the marriage on IGI is also a submitted entry, but if rosie99 says that it is on the Lancashire site then that would confirm, to me at least, that the marriage was genuine.  But you do need to check it for yourself.

Sorry to be so pessimistic.   :'(

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Re: baptisms
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 July 10 11:07 BST (UK) »
Hi sorry for lack of info. my ggfx6 was john johnson baptised in holy trinity church bolton le sands lancs 1710, he was married at the same church in 1735 to ann sparling their abode is given as rishton house in the parish of bolton le sands would marriage register give parentage Thanks Kenace

Hi would like to thank you all for your help, Thanks Ken.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 July 10 11:26 BST (UK) »
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but I would tend to disagree with Mort29, in that I have found it more usual to see the name of the father on baptism records, rather than the mother (if only one name is given) - unless it is an illegitimate child in which case the mother's name would be given

given that there is never any doubt about the mother, I find it strange that you think that its 'more usual' to find a father's name in the circumstances you outline.