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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 16:26 BST (UK) »
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Thank you Migky - Slip o9f the keyboard - It was a Trafford Park telephone number!  ;) ;) ;)

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 July 10 09:02 BST (UK) »
Correction to my first post.
As i Found the name as AUtonelli and not ANtonelli, i only looked for the name with the spelling with the letter U .

Any way had a second look at the name Antonellie and came up with these. 1927
Domenico Antonelli
Foreign provisions dealer.
55 Great Ancoats street.

1927 & 1929
Mrs Ernest Antonelli
Householder.
7 Onley street, C-on-M

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 July 10 09:08 BST (UK) »
1929 Luigi Antonelli
Biscuit manufacturer ( International wafer Co )
Res: 80 Rye bank road.
C-cum-H


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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 July 10 09:25 BST (UK) »
1935 Romolo Antonelli
21 Woodhey Drive
Ashton on mersey
 
1937 he is at 157 Kings Road.

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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 July 10 17:21 BST (UK) »
Micky - Emms,  Gentlemen: Well resourced, thank you very much whole areas of data are  proving helpful especially the address found of the Astley Arms at 78 Gt Ancoats.  My plan can now go ahead to locate the 'census owners' of Astley Arms back to 1841,  Do either of you  have knowledge of the pub pre 1841,  I accept this is pushing my luck but on your replies so far after posting the question -   I get 9 replies in less than 24 hours - seems my luck might just hold out.  Again, thank you.   Frank.
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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 22 July 10 17:35 BST (UK) »
In the 1913 directory at:
Astley Arms Hotel
78 great Ancoats street. Manchester
Ernest Autonelli

No sign of him on the 1927 & 1929 directories, but saying that, the pub/Hotel doesn't appear to be on there? Numbers 74 to 80 are missing? I wonder if it was pulled down then.

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the pubs still standing micky,it was partly rebult some years ago,its on port st,ancoats at the opposite end of jersey st,he was the landlord between 1913 and 1915,but he wasnt to happy with it,because he was a non drinker,so he gave it up.

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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 22 July 10 20:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Frank

Yes, I've had a look in Pigot's 1828-9.

It was there, and mentioned as a named tavern - at this date many drinking establishments were just liquor license holders in a normal house - unless they were inns.

Under taverns:

Astley's Arms, Thos. Evans, 224 Great Ancoats Street..

I wonder if someone called Astley started it, or if it was used by workers from a firm called Astley, similar to Joiner's Arms etc?

By the way, Frank, I don't know how close to Manchester you are, but if the records survive, you can research the licquor licences and get a pretty decent history of the tavern.

Round here, (Cumbria), they survive from well before 1828 and you get the name of the proposed licensee and of the seconder / proposer, who will often be a relative in the licquor trade.  You can see the place pass through different generations and fAamilies to daughter/ son in law and so on.  Often a group of families had quite a strong hold on a large group of taverns in a town or even city.

One branch of my family were involved in the liquor trade in Derby, and if you put their name in 19C Newspapers etc you get all sorts of goings on in the inn - inquests, auctions, crimes, etc as well as news of new ownership.

Good luck with the hunt.

Best wishes

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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 24 July 10 11:21 BST (UK) »
A little more on the history of the Astley arms.
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Click  here 4 Astley arms info

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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 24 July 10 11:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Migky :)

Great site - looks like someone's done the job already!

Emms :) :)
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas