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astley arms. gt ancoats street
« on: Wednesday 21 July 10 09:14 BST (UK) »
 speaking of Little Italy in Manchester and of an Italian family that owned the Astley Arms Hotel on Great Ancoats St. in 1912-1913 - does anyone have further knowledge of this pub.    Thanks  Frank. (Oxford)
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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 10:49 BST (UK) »
In the 1913 directory at:
Astley Arms Hotel
78 great Ancoats street. Manchester
Ernest Autonelli

No sign of him on the 1927 & 1929 directories, but saying that, the pub/Hotel doesn't appear to be on there? Numbers 74 to 80 are missing? I wonder if it was pulled down then.

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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 10:58 BST (UK) »
1911 
Mrs Christina Antonelli
Shopkeeper
55 Great Ancoats street, Manchester.

D Antonelli
Mechanical organ builder.
59- 61 Great Ancoats street, Manchester.
also at 2 & 4 Blossom street, Manchester.


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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 11:15 BST (UK) »
As i can see all of the above are related.  Domenica & Christina were Ernest's parents.
Christina has a still born child buried on 11th March 1896 in Phillips park cemetery.
Roman catholic section, grave number H 485.
As so many of the roman catholic section of the cemetery are missing or grass has grown over them, it would be difficult to find any grave stone, if one survived that is. This is a public grave, with many people in it.

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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 11:40 BST (UK) »
Manchester's little Italy ( Memories of little Italy colony of Ancoats by Anthony Rea ) has a page on the Antonelli's. Domenico Antonelli was born 1857 Piciniso. He was trained as a carpenter and later conscripted in to the army. He came to Manchester 1894 and opened his Organ factory on great Ancoats street Manchester. There is a photo of his shop in the book plus it tells a little of this mans small empire he built.

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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 14:49 BST (UK) »
There is a world war one medal card for Ernest Antonelli.
Machine Gun Corps
Regimental Number: 119151

but nothing for his brothers or service records as far as i could see?

By the way i think the surname is Antonelli and not Autonellie as quoted in the 1913 directory for Ernest.


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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 16:10 BST (UK) »
Hi

Looks ass if they were in Buiscuits by 1953.

All Antonelli's, no Autonellis.

Misses J & E 169 Ayres Rd OT (OLd Trafford I assume) (Corrected Thank You, Migky)

Luigi, Buiscuit Manufacturer (International Buiscuits Co Ltd), Rye Lodge, 209 Washway Rd Sale.

Romolo, buiscuit manufacturer, Same Company, 157 King's Road, Old T.

They must have been doing reasonably, as they all had telephones.  Don't know if they're yours but they're the only ones!

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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 16:12 BST (UK) »
PS The address of International Buiscuits is given as Progress Works, ASyres Rd, OT.

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Re: astley arms. gt ancoats street
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 16:15 BST (UK) »
They are all one and the same family Emms
Owned or had business's on a lot of Great Ancoats street at one point.
They had the biscuit company way back in the 1900's
Also think it is Old Trafford not Trafford park.
Was one of the last barrel organ maker in Manchester, the old "Hurdy-gurdy "
owned the  international waffer company on Bridgewater street.
They were also whole sale wine merchants.

Click to eat there waffers

Migky  ;)