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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 09 October 10 00:10 BST (UK) »
My Michael McKeown was never actually called Thomas. we think he may have been incorrectly linked to a Thomas Michael McKeown wholived in the gallowgate, a mere stones throw from Celtic Park.

Michael is buried in the Quillan family plot though and the link is intriguing. Could both families have known each other in Ireland perhaps?

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 09 October 10 10:11 BST (UK) »
There are a number of family trees showing on Ancestry for the line of Thomas McKeown and Mary Jane Sharkey. One of them has Thomas Snr. being born in Longford.....which made me think of that marriage reference we had for Michael "Mick" McKeown's parents, Patrick and Bridget, being married in Longford in 1862. Given the similarity of both sets of parents' children's names, and the additional reference to Quillan, you would think there could be some connection. The most obvious one which would need to be verified, is the possibility that Thomas and Patrick McKeown may have been brothers, but that is just speculation from me for now  :) Not sure whether death certs have been checked for either Thomas or Patrick to establish their parents' names but that is certainly the way forward for anyone wanting to go back a bit more.

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #29 on: Monday 11 October 10 19:29 BST (UK) »

Hello Frilly,

This looks a very good possibility for Mary Starkey, born about 1850. born Duntocher, according to several census reports.

1851. census Main Street, Kerrs Property, Duntocher.

Hugh Shirky, Head, M. M. age 24 years, Lab at Coal Works, born Ireland,
Marjory Shirky, Wife, M. F. age 23 years, born Ireland,
John Shirky, Son, M. age 4 years, born Dunbarton, Duntocher,
Mary Jane Shirky, Daugh, F. age 10 mons, born Dunbarton, Duntocher,
John McLaughlan, Lodger, U. M. age 21 years, Lab in Coal Works, born Ireland.

The marriage date for above couple Hugh Starkey, and Marjory Burns, married 13/June/1846. Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton.

As Monica, stated in previous post if you get the marriage of Thomas McKeon, and Mary Sharkey, this will verify the parents of Thomas, and Mary.

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Jonn

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #30 on: Monday 11 October 10 19:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you John ,this info would certaintly suggest this is my my Greatgranparents family.I have tried to get marriage cert details  for Thomas Mckeown and Mary Starkey ( re Scotlands people ) but for some reason search keeps  showing o Results,seems really strange, as ( Thank s to you !!!! I   now have all relevent details   Frillr


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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #31 on: Monday 11 October 10 20:21 BST (UK) »
Hello Frilly,

On Scotlandspeople you will only get a result if the information you put in to their search engine is exactly as is on the marriage for Thomas, and Mary, ie the spelling of Thomas, surname on his wedding to Mary, is McKeon.

So to find the marriage put McKeon, in the male surname box, then Thomas, in the forename box, then in the female surname box put Starkey, then Mary, in the forename box, year range 1869. there is only one hit thats them.

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 12 October 10 17:13 BST (UK) »
Hello John
Thanks for tip have finally got marriage cert details for Thomas McKeon and Mary Starkey. Thomas Parents shown as Father Thomas McKeon Occupation Blacksmith mother Rosann McKeon nee  what looks like Hesling   Mary Starkey Parents Hugh Stirkey Mother Marjory Stirkey nee 
Burns. Regards Frilly

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 11 September 11 15:52 BST (UK) »
Hello there,
Could this census entry give any clues?
Joseph Quillan age 7 whose parents were Patrick Quillan and Elizabeth ms Bird is shown in the 1891 Scotland Census living with his brother in law Michael Mckeown age 32. I know that after  the marriageof Joseph's sister Maggie Quilan 23rd April 1889to Mihcael they seperated after a few years. The lady in this household in 1891  is named as jane but is also recorded as wife. I wonder why Joseph and his sister would still be there.

Michael McKeown 32
Jane McKeown 20
Lizzie Quillan 10
Joseph Quillan 7, brother in law, b. Glasgow

Address  534 Gallowgate, Glasgow Calton

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 11 September 11 16:11 BST (UK) »
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Re Details of Thomas Michael "Mick" McKeown who became a Celtic player and a Scotland international.

I am researching the Quillan family among others. Fromthe Scotlands people site i have a marriage certificate with the following details which differ from yours. Is this helpful to you?
He is stated to be a Roman Catholic and he married Mary Margaret (Maggie) Quillan in 1889 at St Mary's RC Chapel in Carmichael
On the marriage certificate his parents details are listed as Patrick McKeown, a steelwork labourer  Miner, and Bridget Calligan Agnes Reilly Maggie's parents are listed as Patrick Quillan and Elizabeth Mceneny.
Her brother Patrick was married on the same day in a double wedding.
 I am finding it difficult to find the Mcenenys
regards