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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 July 10 21:50 BST (UK) »
Sorry, intermission from my part (children, real life sometimes gets in the way!).

There's a few things that might help this descendant of Michael to get on his way.

Someone has a family tree on Ancestry for his brother Patrick, born 14 May 1884 in Auchinleck. Patrick Jnr went on to marry an Elizabeth Allison at the end of 1910 in Cadzow, Hamilton. They have Patrick Snr and Bridget's marriage as being in December 1862 in Colem Kiln, Co. Longford, Ireland (this may come from Patrick's birth cert). No other info for his parents on this tree but their death certs will include their parents' names to get back to the next generation.

Some baptisms for the children:

Ann McEwen b. 08/02/1871 and bpts 24/03/1871. Parents: PATRICK MCEWEN and BRIDGET  at DUNTOCHER, ST MARY'S

Rose McKeown b. 14/03/1865 and bpts 01/05/1865. Parents: PATRICK MCKEOWN and BRIGET COLLISON at BARRHEAD, ST JOHN'S

Mother Bridget looks to have died in 1900:

Bridget McKeown/Calligan died 1900 aged 55 in Lugar Ayrshire ref: 577/02 0014

On the issue of Dalbeth as the likely burial place for Michael, I see that attempts have been made to find his burial details. There is a RootsChat member, Gerry Farrell, who has done a huge amount of work on Dalbeth. These are some of his posts here on RC:

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,352095.0.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,338593.0.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,324578.0.html

I've just sent him a message to see if there is anything he can add.

Monica  :)
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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 01:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Monica I'll look at those threads.

We have confirmed that Mick is indeed buried in Dalbeth and have visited his final resting place.

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 01:10 BST (UK) »
That's great that you have his burial place confirmed now  :)

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 01:15 BST (UK) »
We are currently researching all those with a Celtic connection who may be buried in Dalbeth including the founding fathers of the club. It's quite a list so far.

If you have any Celtic related queries please feel free to point people in my direction and we will gladly help wherever possible.


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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 09:33 BST (UK) »

The father Patrick McKeown, died also in Lugar, Ayr, 1907. aged 66 years.

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 23:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the info guys. Much appreciated.

This has really got me back into the family tree. Seeing that Michael goes back to Co' Longford was an eye opener. I didnt think that McKeowns were in that neck of the woods. Mostly Antrim and the North East coastline area.

I am now in the process of putting together a tree for Michael. However, I really would like to put some meat onto the bones of his story. Those who have read it will agree that it is sad, but there must have been contributing factors. For example, we know that Celtic gave players licenses for Pubs back in those days as football was amateur. This was the sweetner. Did this contibute to his early demise?

However, I will concentrate on my own McKeowns as unfortunately Michael is not one of ours. Unless I can get mine back to Co'Longford then we may be related.

I will also flirt about here for the foreseeable as this website looks amazing.

Next stop. Dalbeth cemetary to find my Great Grandfathers resting place. Then my main goal. To find out the Irish base of my McKeown family. Longford? Antrim? HELP!!!

Any hints, tips or advice will be warmly received. After all if we knew everything we would not be here.... would we?

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 06 October 10 14:05 BST (UK) »

Hell0 Monica

I  notice you have info about some of the MCkeown s Living at 246 Conberry Auchinleck My GreatMother Mary Ann Miller  was registered as living at 240 Cronberry at her birth 28/9/1862. Her Daughter ( my grandmother married Michael MCkeown1n 1906 in Motherewl I have never known where ny Grandfather Michael was born, but am now wondering if he met my Grandmother in AUCHINLECK !!! My Grandfather Michael ( Known as wee Mick) his Father was a Thomas McKeown and his mother name was Mary Starkey I was wondering if you could get back to me to let me know if there might be a connection Thank you so much
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See now where the research is going http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/topic/8314219/1/  For the good cause (my dad's team  ;D), a little bit more:

Patrick McKeown 51, Ironstone Miner
Bridget McKeown 50
James McKeown 27
Bridget McKeown 18
Edward McKeown 13
Maggie McKeown 11
Patrick McKeown 6 b. Cronberry, Ayrshire

Address: No 246 Cronberry, Auchinleck, Ayrshire

Perhaps mother Bridget died between censuses? From 1901:

Patrick Mckeown 64, Ironstone Miner, Hewer
Rose Mckeown 35
Edward Mckeown 24
Patrick Mckeown 17

Address: No 246 Cronberry, Auchinleck, Ayrshire


Sad ending for Michael by the time of his death in 1903 from what I have read  :'(

Monica

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 06 October 10 20:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Frilly

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

I'm not connected to the McKeowns, just helping Camillo out on the searches he was doing.

From the info you have on Michael, I am wondering if this could be his family on the 1901 census:

Thomas Mckeown 50, Agent (life Assurance) b. Ireland
Mary Mckeown 49 b. Duntocher, Renfrewshire (I think this should be Dunbartonshire)
Patrick Mckeown 22
Michael Mckeown 20, coal miner, b. Bearsden, Renfrewshire
Francis Mckeown 19
Owen Mckeown 17
Maggie Mckeown 11
Mary Mckeown 9
Daniel Mckeown 8
Joseph Mckeown 7
Thomas Mckeown 25
Maggie Mckeown 20
Thomas Mckeown 7 Months, grandson
Bridget Briady 20

Address: 22 Watsonville, Motherwell

And the family in 1891. Big family, lots of children!:

Thomas McKeown 41, coal miner b. Ireland
Mary McKeown 40 b. Garscadden, Dumbarton
John McKeown 20
Hugh McKeown 19
Rose Ann McKeown 17
Thomas McKeown 15
Patrick McKeown 12
Michael McKeown 10 b. Garscadden, Dumbarton
Francis McKeown 8
Owen McKeown    6
Margaret Quillin McKeown 11 Months

Address: 143 Watsonville, Dalziel

Monica  :)


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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 06 October 10 20:41 BST (UK) »
Frilly, if it will help you if you want to work back on Michael's line, his mother's maiden name is coming up as Shirk(e)y/Sharkey on some of the children's birth registrations on IGI:

1. JOHN MCKEON  Birth: 21 AUG 1870 New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton
2. HUGH MCKEON  Birth: 13 MAR 1872 Hutchesontown, Glasgow
3. ROSANNA MCEWAN Birth: 29 SEP 1873 New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton

I think this is the parents' marriage:

THOMAS MCKEON and MARY SHARKEY    
Marriage: 31 DEC 1869 Eaglesham, Renfrew

Monica
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