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Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« on: Monday 19 July 10 16:52 BST (UK) »
Looking for some details of Thomas Michael "Mick" McKeown who became a Celtic player and a Scotland international.

I know that he died 25 Oct 1903 in Camlachie but he is reputed to have been born in Dalmellington in 1870 yet can find no trace of him.

He is stated to be a Roman Catholic and he married Mary Quillan in 1889 at St Mary's RC Chapel in Carmichael but separated from his wife in 1893.

His parents details are listed as Patrick McKeown, a Miner, and Bridget Calligan (sp) who were both deceased at the time of a poor law claim on 11th September 1903 just before his own death.

He may have been living in Glasgow, in the Calton, as a young child also.

Can't find his birth on Scotlands people. ???

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 July 10 17:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Camillo

This is the only family I can see in both 1881/91 with parents names of Patrick and Bridget. The entry below is from 1881:

Patrick McEwan 40, Ironstone Miner b. Ireland
Bridget McEwan 38 b. Ireland
James McEwan 17 b. Auchinleck, Ayrshire
Rosey McEwan 16 b. Abbey, Renfrewshire
Michael McEwan 12 b. Dalmellington, Ayrshire
Annie McEwan 10 b. N Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire
Bridget McEwan 8 b. Auchinleck, Ayrshire
Edward McEwan 3 b. Muirkirk, Ayrshire
Margaret McEwan 1 b. Muirkirk, Ayrshire

Address: Kames Row, Muirkirk, Ayrshire

Could Thomas perhaps be Michael Thomas?

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 July 10 17:47 BST (UK) »
Must be  :) Checking on IGI, there is this entry:

MICHAEL MCEWAN  Birth: 24 JAN 1869 Dalmellington, Ayr
Parents:PATRICK MCEWAN and BRIDGET COLLIGAN

Can't easily see their marriage but if you view Michael's birth entry, it will include details of where and when parents married.

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 July 10 18:20 BST (UK) »
See now where the research is going http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/topic/8314219/1/  For the good cause (my dad's team  ;D), a little bit more:

Patrick McKeown 51, Ironstone Miner
Bridget McKeown 50
James McKeown 27
Bridget McKeown 18
Edward McKeown 13
Maggie McKeown 11
Patrick McKeown 6 b. Cronberry, Ayrshire

Address: No 246 Cronberry, Auchinleck, Ayrshire

Perhaps mother Bridget died between censuses? From 1901:

Patrick Mckeown 64, Ironstone Miner, Hewer
Rose Mckeown 35
Edward Mckeown 24
Patrick Mckeown 17

Address: No 246 Cronberry, Auchinleck, Ayrshire


Sad ending for Michael by the time of his death in 1903 from what I have read  :'(

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 July 10 18:25 BST (UK) »
Can't easily see Michael in 1891 (had he left for the English team by then?) but this looks a likely entry for him in 1901, close to his father and siblings - as transcribed:

Michael McKnown, 31, navvy, b. Cronberry, Ayrshire

He shows with a large number of workers at the Ponesk Railway Huts in Muirkirk Ayrshire.

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 July 10 18:38 BST (UK) »
Monica

Thank you. It just shows that you should include all of the information you possess as I also had a Muirkirk reference.

He was sent to the City Poorhouse on 11th September 1903 and then sent "home" to Ayr Poorhouse on 25th September 1903.

There is also an indication that Muirkirk Parish sent Mick to the Ayr Poorhouse a year prior to making this claim.


This gives me much more to go on

The birth of Annie

Annie McEwan 10 b. N Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire

could also identify them as being resident in Dumbartonshire at the time of the 1871 census.


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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 July 10 18:42 BST (UK) »
Monica the information is going to the newly formed Celtic Graves Society. (I've just credited you there with the find  ;) )

This is actually a descendant of Michael who has contacted us.

When we are fully established I will post full details of our aims and objectives and how we intend to honour the deceased.

Mick moved to Blackburn to play for Blackburn Rovers but sadly his alcoholism put paid to his chances of success there too.

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 July 10 18:52 BST (UK) »
This looks to be the family in 1871. Likely Michael's age has been mistranscribed on the index I am looking at (hopefully the original will be clearer:

Patrick McEwan 30, ironstone miner b. Ireland
Bridget McEwan 38 b. Ireland
James McEwan 7 b.Auchinleck, Ayrshire
Rose McEwan 6 b. Abbey Parish Paisley, Renfrewshire
Michael McEwan 4 b. Patna (?), Ayrshire
Annie McEwan 2 Months b. New Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire

Address: 25 ?, New Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire

The birth entries for the children are likely to come up with all sorts of spelling for the surname of father and mother (a sign of the times). This looks like sister's Rose's birth entry:

ROSE MCKEOWN Birth: 21 MAR 1865 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrewshire

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Re: Thomas Michael McKeown died Camlachie but born Dalmellington?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 July 10 20:29 BST (UK) »
Monica

This message of thanks was passed to us. It should be directed at you.

Again, thanks guys for taking time out to check this for me. I know how hard it is to research this stuff, but I guess the joys of finding the truth makes it all worth while. I found that out anyway.

I think I am going to go back to the start of the McKeown line and work back. I have been aiming to get a location of where they came from. It is difficult, but I will get there. I need to hit the graveyards of Ayrshire to find out if there is a headstone on the Ancestor "Michael McKeown" who arrived during the famine.

May God Bless every one of you guys, and keep up the good work!


Thank you. Your efforts have been much appreciated.