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Re: I need help to Decipher a Baptism Record Please
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 11:17 BST (UK) »
GM,  is that not "Nic"    slainte the noo!     Skoosh.

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Re: I need help to Decipher a Baptism Record Please
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 11:32 BST (UK) »
Ahon - you're right - senility creeps ever onwards.  I'm so glad I said I wasn't an expert.
Ayrshire: McCormick (mack); McFadzean; Kerr; Brown; Paton; McGregor; McDonald; Moffat; Connel; Bone
Dumfries/Lanarks: (pre-1840) McDonald; Moffat; Bone; Hamilton; Hyslop; Sandiland; Bredwood; Kerr; Brown
Ireland (pre-1820) McCormick (Monaghan)

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Re: I need help to Decipher a Baptism Record Please
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 12:53 BST (UK) »
Gaelic sounds rather complicated, I'm afraid I'm a bit baffled... :-\   Do you think that I have got the correct interpretation of the baptism record:

Rory the son of Roderick McDonald who lived at Breachachy in Kilmorack Parish. Baptized a son named Hugh, the Godfathers were Andrew John's son and Fergus McDonald the son of Roderick McDonald   

If so it means I can assume that Hughs grandfather was Roderick McDonald...... and his uncle was Fergus...

Thanks
Patricia
Names: Warden, McDonald, Muirison, Kirk, Valentine, Forbes. also Kift (Braunton in Devon)

Areas: Scotland - Edinburgh, Dundee, Moulin, Dunkeld, Alyth, Invernes, Dornoch, Findhorn, Wick, Peterhead, Aberdeen and Turriff. Also for Valentine and Forbes.. Stonehaven, Fettercairn, St Vigeans and Girvan.

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Re: I need help to Decipher a Baptism Record Please
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 13:50 BST (UK) »
Pat,  I think it says, Andrew son of Red Iain, the Fergus might also be Hugh.     Skoosh.


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Re: I need help to Decipher a Baptism Record Please
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 14:02 BST (UK) »
I think it says:

At Kilmorak Jan: 3 1700
Rory McDonald bu Rory in Breaback
putted his son called hugh to be
baptized Godfathers Andrew Mc
Ean roy and Ferg[...] McConel bu
Rory

I don't know what bu means, but I would hazard a guess that Ferg McConel (it looks like should be Fergus, so let's just say it is!) and Rory McDonald are related somehow, in that they are both bu Rory.

I'd say bu meant something like 'also known as' or 'was' or something along those lines.

Edit:  Just checked Gaelic - English and bu does mean 'was'.

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Re: I need help to Decipher a Baptism Record Please
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 14:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you, I can see that the word is most probably bu (was) and that makes sense, Where the 'Roderick' came from I am not sure  ??? but there was a Roderick McDonald in Kilmorak in the 1650's.....

The wonders of Google..... apparently... the Gaelic language was the only language spoken throughout the Highlands of Scotland until as recently as 1850...... but how they managed without use of V or J,K,Q.W,X,Y or Z I can't imagine....

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Names: Warden, McDonald, Muirison, Kirk, Valentine, Forbes. also Kift (Braunton in Devon)

Areas: Scotland - Edinburgh, Dundee, Moulin, Dunkeld, Alyth, Invernes, Dornoch, Findhorn, Wick, Peterhead, Aberdeen and Turriff. Also for Valentine and Forbes.. Stonehaven, Fettercairn, St Vigeans and Girvan.

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Re: I need help to Decipher a Baptism Record Please
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 17:33 BST (UK) »
Pat, Gaelic can't be the only language which manages without these letters. Mc Conel means Macdonald, Roderick is a common name in Kilmorack/Urray, I won't attempt the pronounciation here.
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Re: I need help to Decipher a Baptism Record Please
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 09:46 BST (UK) »
Why not send a PM to someone on the Gaelic only board and see if they can help?   (not allowed to post on the board in English).

Skoosh - interesting about Conel - I have both Connel and McDonald in my lines but wasn't aware it was the same name.   Brick wall with Connel before 1770 so might be worth searching on McDonald.
Ayrshire: McCormick (mack); McFadzean; Kerr; Brown; Paton; McGregor; McDonald; Moffat; Connel; Bone
Dumfries/Lanarks: (pre-1840) McDonald; Moffat; Bone; Hamilton; Hyslop; Sandiland; Bredwood; Kerr; Brown
Ireland (pre-1820) McCormick (Monaghan)

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Re: I need help to Decipher a Baptism Record Please
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 10:48 BST (UK) »

Thats an interesting point regarding English/Gaelic names.... Hugh and Ewan.... I have been told that they are the same name, one English the other Gaelic. Anyone have any input there?

regards Pat
Names: Warden, McDonald, Muirison, Kirk, Valentine, Forbes. also Kift (Braunton in Devon)

Areas: Scotland - Edinburgh, Dundee, Moulin, Dunkeld, Alyth, Invernes, Dornoch, Findhorn, Wick, Peterhead, Aberdeen and Turriff. Also for Valentine and Forbes.. Stonehaven, Fettercairn, St Vigeans and Girvan.