1861, 1871 Look up please WILLIAMS

[zebedee]

I am trying to find my g.g.grandfather, JOHN WILLIAMS, b.1851 in Poole. I believe his mother may have been EDITH but unsure of his father's name. In 1881 census he was in Lancashire and married to CAROLINE BURCHALL b.1855
Thanks

[CaroleW]

She was Caroline Birchall according to the entry on Lancs BMD and they married at St Ambrose in 1875.  John was 21 so birthyear c 1854.  1881 shows 1851 and and 1891 shows 1850

The marriage is on the IGI pilot website and Caroline's father was Roger but no father is shown for John.  It's shown as St Ambrose Cheshire on the Pilot site

www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

http://pilot.familysearch.org

[CaroleW]

I notice they had a daughter Esther.  There is a John Williams b Poole with a mother & sister called Esther but he was b 1844

[jacques]

Know you didn't ask for 1851 but there is a John Williams and  family living Wyke regis Dorset but his age shows 4 so 1847!!!!
here it is anyway
1851 @ Wyke Regis Dorset
William  Williams Head  36  Journeyman Shoemaker      Born  Dorset  Weymouth
Edith                   Wife   40                                                         "         Long Horton?
Edith Rachel       Dau    14                                                          "         Weymouth
Hannah               "        12
Robert               Son      11
William                "          9
Louisa               Dau       7
Rachel                 "          5
JOHN                 Son       4

James                 "          1                                             All above children born Weymouth

and next door Mary Williams  Wid  74  Parish relief   Born Dorset Wyke Regis

[zebedee]

Many thanks. Will look at these in more detail tomorrow\is there no record of John in 1861 or 1871 census?

[CaroleW]

No but I notice he was a mariner so could have been at sea in 1871

No John Williams with that profile in either 1861/71

The absence of a fathers name when he married suggests he was illegitimate.  If his mother married before 1861 - he could be shown under her married name instead of Williams

[zebedee]

Thanks again. I am intrigued as to where he was in 1861 census as he would have been aged 7.

[CaroleW]

I am intrigued as to where he was in 1861 census as he would have been aged 7

From my reply above

If his mother married before 1861 - he could be shown under her married name instead of Williams