Hanley (aka Hanly)- Sorta completed i guess! :)

[Margeh75]

hi i just want to say thanks for all the help you gave me with my search  up to now all the names of the children you private mailed me were all correct. so thanks for finding them. Waiting now for the birth cert of John and i'm just dying to pinpoint him on the census thanks again

Hello again,

The Family Search site has other children around the same time- surname Hanley and mother McGrath which may help your husband. Do be careful though because those people could be living and names of living (or possibly) persons should not be published.

good luck
heywood

[Margeh75]

We have managed to pinpoint the Hanley/Hanly's on the census

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Ballysimon/Tooreen/1493688/ here in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Caherconlish/Srahane/623644/ here in 1911

Martin Hanly was deceased by 1911, so he isn't on it. The name has no "e" in it as in 1901 census.


john hanly was here http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Ballyvarra/Ahabeg__Rose_/622537/ in 1911

probably having to work to provide a wage for the family now Martin had gone
i also found the other children 10 years on, also working

5 in Drombanny (Ballysimon, Limerick)
Hanley Johanna 18 Female Servant Roman Catholic Co Limerick Domestic General Servant

Highpark (Caherconlish, Limerick)
Hanly Bridget 17 Female ServantCatholic Co Limerick General  Domestic Servant

4 in Carrigparson (Ballysimon, Limerick) 1911
Hany Hanora 15 Female  Servant Catholic Co Limerick Domestic Servant (it is actually Hanly the "l" was covered by the tail of a "y" overhead on the original document and was prob going on 16

in Rockfarm (Kilmurry, Limerick)
Hanly Anne 15 Female  Servant Roman Catholic Co Limerick Nurse Domestic Servant
 

 i received the following info from Gemma

edmond hanly  - 30 jan 1891 , cahernarry , annacotty,co.limerick

john Hanly- 20th july 1897 bohermore, co. limerick
 
peter hanly - 29 th june 1902 , carringmartin, annacotty, co. limerick
 
martin hanly - 3rd dec 1900 , toureen , annacotty, co. limerrick
 
james hanly 19th nov 1904 , toureen , annacotty , co limerick

Annie Sr's (Martin's wife) maiden name is Connell.(( marriage of martin hanly n anne (connell) hanly - 11 nov 1886 in caherconlish ,martin hanly's  father is Edmond hanly and anne connell's father is a patrick connell))
  if someone can find the births of the others like these it would be great! johanna abt 1892, Bridget, 1893, Annie 1894, Hanora 1895, (john would have been 1897) then as above i have the rest.

 
**ps) no person mentioned on this census or my search in this post is living. They are all deceased.

[ghanly]

johanna  12/8/1892 - caherinarry

bridget 1 /4/1896 -  caherinarry age is incorrect on 1901 census

annie (anne) 19/ 01/ 1895 -  caherinarry


im stuck on hanora  i found one but she 23/03.1986 but parents name r martin n anna connell from donoughmore

[Margeh75]

hmm its a bit confusing! Bridget  was on the census as being able to read and write, but i doubt that would be possible if she was 5 in 1901. and i thought this was her in 1911

Hanly   Bridget   17   Female   Servant   Catholic  in 6 in Highpark (Caherconlish, Limerick) working as a domestic servant.

 hmm.. does it say the parents names on her birthcert? i thought this might have been her

record title:
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
name:
Bridget Hanley
registration district:
Limerick
event type:
BIRTHS
registration quarter and year:
Oct - Dec 1893



 i sent you an email there as well, lookin for a few details cos i've reached a dead end with cert searching as Ireland didn't register anything before the year 1864 i can from the parish church but i need to know the date of birth, priest and district in which people were baptised, (kinda defeats the purpose when your tryin to find out yourself lol!)

i think this is Hanora

Hanora Hanly
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
birth:
Jan - Mar 1894 — Limerick
 
 
record title:
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
name:
Hanora Hanly
registration district:
Limerick
event type:
BIRTHS
registration quarter and year:
Jan - Mar 1894
volume number:
5
 
and i think this might be a marriage for her she would have been 23.

Hanora Hanly
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
residence:
Limerick
marriage:
Apr - Jun 1917 — Limerick
 
ye never know

[ghanly]

i worked out she wud have been 6 in 1901 n yes the info i got martin n anne r her parents

i found hanora im think that the site i got may have the yr wrong coz it said 23  march 1896 her parent martin hanly n anna hanly she was from donoughmore

[Margeh75]

oh cool im tryin to see if anyone related to Johns brothers and sisters are out there. there seems to be many hanly families with children the same names in different years! i guess some names were popular and most people were called after other people. was gonna ask is martin's age on his marriage cert?

[Margeh75]

So as i've established throughout my research,the Hanly's never had an "e" in it from the beginning. I got the official birth cert of John Hanly and there is no e in the surname of him or his parents. i also got word back from the Garda museum and they informed me this :"When a person applied to join An Garda Siochana, he was required to show a Birth or Baptismal Certificate.
That name is the one that was used for official purposes.
It was not changed in any way.
This is the case with member **, John Hanly"
so it wasn't changed in the force because someone else joined with the same name. This is supported by the written birth cert i obtained which says Hanly. The government didn't take out the "e" either. back when ireland was under the british rule, it is said that a lot of the irish dropped the "O" or "Mac" from their names to avoid persecution, and anglicized their names. So originally the name Hanley/Hanly came from the name Ó'hAinle (O'Hanley/Hanly). I guess the "e" appearing in Hanley was just the way the person at the registrar wrote it down and it was never corrected. Once a birth cert is written in ireland it cannot be changed in any way shape or form. Unless you change it yourself to another spelling by deed pole, the name as it is on your birth cert remains so. Interesting how names change even if its slight

[ghanly]

well your going to love me because i managed to work out mary mc grath brother name so far!!!

they lived at 6 gallwshill athy (1911)

there was john jn - 16
willie( william) - 12
joe (joseph)- 8
may think it incorrect but it mary 6
chritsy - 4

now dad remembers a tom , mike ,patrick, james with make 9 chn! n the census said she had 10 chn 9 living

[Margeh75]

Blimey you are inspector morse haha fair play 2 ya! Thats def them. On the marriage cert they got married in Athy so obviously her home town, her father was John (as recorded on the cert) and William (Willie) was a witness on her marriage day. I'd say her name was mary on her birth cert, and funnily enough Siobhain said your grandmother was known as May, and that her mother was Maisie wow cool! no wonder i couldnt find them! with the Mc separated from the Grath and she May was recorded a minor on the marriage cert (under 21) so she would have been 18 gettin married! great find well done you!! x

ps) i found them on the 1901 census http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Burtown/Ardscul/1433518/ they lived in a different place. there's John jn, and Willie, joe and may not born yet obv in 1901. there seems there was Lilly but she died and as it said in 1911 10 chn born 9 living. thats sad.. your dad remembers Michael and James and they are on this census too .. again great find cheers for that you still coming to Clonbullogue?