Birth/death lookups> Ritchie family

[erylthepres]

I have record of Sarah Frances Ritchie aged 3 in 1851 census, born circa 1848. does not appear on 1861 C but a Sarah Ann Ritchie born circa 1852. they were born in Wonersh/Carshalton. I presume that Sarah Frances has died but cannot find any record of either birth or death on search in Find my past. Can any one help by shedding any light please

Thank you
 Eryl

[danuslave]

Hi Eryl

The children from John (Dec 1837) to Eleanor  (Dec 1850) are all registered in Epsom (which would fit with being born in Carshalton)

There are birth registrations for

Susanna Ritchie   1848   Jul-Aug-Sep  Epsom  Volume  4  Page   133

Sarah Ann Ritchie  1852  Oct-Nov-Dec  Epsom  Volume 2a  Page  3

so I wonder if Sarah Frances started life as Susanna?

Linda

[Valda]

Hi

Is the 1851 census more likely a census enumerator's error for Sussanna?

FreeBMD (transcription of the General Registry Office civil registration)

Births Sep 1848  
RITCHIE  Susanna     Epsom  4 133

followed by

Births Dec 1852  
Ritchie  Sarah Ann     Epsom  2a 3

8th October 1866 Christ Church, Battersea
Joseph Gibbens 32 Bachelor Mariner Battersea William Gibbens Labourer
Susannah Ritchie 19 Spinster Battersea William Ritchie Leather Dresser
Both signed
Witnesses John Young and Emily Mark


Regards

Valda
 

[danuslave]

It's a bit of a long shot but there's a death registration for

Sarah Ritchie  1856  Apr-May-Jun  Leeds   Volume  9b  Page  281 or 287

According to the 1851 census Martha Ritchie (mother) was born in Leeds

Linda

... but I think Valda's post looks good too 

[erylthepres]

Thank you both Valda and Linda for your prompt replies,  it has shown me a new line to pursue. I presume that Susanna not being present at 1861 Census as Wedding  cert shows.

Valda's querying enumerator error could be because of William Ritchie's Scottish accent, because place of Birth shown as Scotland in 1851 and  Musselburgh being entered as Merrselbury on 1861 Census. I queried this with the Scottish Office.

Regards

Eryl

[Valda]

Hi

Taken from the help guide on censuses at the top of the Surrey board

'In the days leading up to a census night an enumerator delivered individually numbered household schedules to each household in his district. On the morning after census night, the enumerator went round to each house and collected the forms. He had a duty to ensure that all the forms were completed properly and collected, even if this meant going back to some houses many times. In the London/metropolitan Surrey area with many accents, dialects and languages spoken, illiteracy and even just a lack of teeth, reading and writing the information onto the household schedules was a mammoth task for the census enumerator.
Spellings can be very ‘flexible’. Once all the forms were gathered in what could then be a tired enumerator working in candlelight copied the information from them onto large sheets which were bound into volumes with a folio number stamped on the top corner of each right hand page. These volumes were then delivered to government statisticians whose job it was to extract important data about the population as a whole. In the course of this process, they often made marks and notes on the pages which can cause confusion when we try to decipher the information. The original household schedules were destroyed.
The 1911 census was the first census where the household schedules were kept and not copied.'

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,403501.0.html


Regards

Valda