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Re: MORGAN of Wyberton
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 06:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you all so much for your help!

I guess another box to tick on whether this George is mine or not may hang on whether a George MORGAN died between 1815 (birth of Wilford Morgan) and 1829 (remarriage of Mary Warner Morgan to Robert Torry).

Tom, I would love a copy of the article, thanks.

Cheers, Andrea
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Re: MORGAN of Wyberton
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 18:59 BST (UK) »
Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser (Exeter, England), Thursday, August 22, 1816 19th Century British Newspapers (Gale Databases)


LINCOLN ASSIZES-George MORGAN, aged 25, late of Wyberton, labourer, was indicted for highway robbery.
Mr. G. B. Colley of Wyberton, stated that on Friday evening the 3rd of May, being about a mile from Boston, on the Spalding road, the prisoner met him, presented a pistol on a level with his breast, and demanded money, which the prosecutor promised to give him, but begged he would not use him ill; prosecutor delivered two notes of £1, and some silver; prisoner was dissatisfied, and demanded more; prosecutor said he had no more, but that one of the £2 he had given him, was probably a £5; this was said to get rid of him. The moon was cloudy, so that he could not see the prisoner’s face, but he seemed very tall and straight, and his speech was remarkable for a very strong Irish brogue. The prosecutor had seen the prisoner once before, had heard him speak a good deal, and could swear to him. An hour afterwards he saw a watchman at Boston, and described the man; the watchman suspected the prisoner, who was called by the name of Irish George and was a known character.
John Rose, constable, at Boston, apprehended the prisoner on the Saturday night following in Boston market-place: he found a pistol loaded with ball. The pistol produced in court was indentified by the prosecutor, who said that the prisoner supported the pistol on his left arm, and his hands shook violently. The prisoner upon this evidence observed , that that was not the way to hold a pistol, and denied that his hand could have shaken, saying he had served his Majesty, had faced 30,000 Frenchmen, and was not likely to tremble at the prosecutor! When called upon for his defence, he said, that there were thousands who spoke like him, and that his mother-in-law could have proved him to be in bed at the time spoken of. He put several questions to the witnesses, with a view of proving that they had contradicted themselves before the Magistrates at Boston. The Jury retired for a few minutes, then found him Guilty-Death.

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Re: MORGAN of Wyberton
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 11:28 BST (UK) »
I think that the commutations of the death sentance in both this and the case of my relative (1832) was probably to due to a directive written or spoken that the sentance was to be commuted unless there had been a killing, this is the implication in the judgement given in my relative's case. I guess it was to populate Australia.
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Re: MORGAN of Wyberton
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 15:14 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the article Tom!  Every little bit helps.

I had hoped that just maybe George Morgan's family had petitioned the court to get a reduced sentence, but Redroger has just dashed that a bit.  Still, maybe worth looking into. 

Thanks for replies.
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Re: MORGAN of Wyberton
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 July 10 15:31 BST (UK) »
I do know from the case of another relative (Wiltshire Machine Breaker early 1830s) this time, and another William Luffman, that his sentence of 7 years transportation was commuted to 12 months imprisonment in England after representations were made on his behalf by a local landowner. Just for information my family has now reformed!!
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Re: MORGAN of Wyberton
« Reply #14 on: Friday 23 July 10 14:57 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I found these deaths and burial which might be of interest,


Wilford MORGAN    Mar Q 1838    Spalding    14  531


Wilford MORGAN   
Date of burial: 16 Jan 1838
Age: 22
Place of burial: Spalding,  Lincolnshire
Dedication: St Mary & St Nicholas
 

Mary could have remarried even if George hadn't died, I've seen it before when  someone was transported, emigrated or even just left the family. I found this burial which makes her about the right age if she's the same Mary WARNER/MORGAN.


Mary TORRY   
Date of burial: 21 Jul 1840
Age: 50
Place of burial: Sibsey, Lincolnshire
Dedication: St Margaret
 

This looks like Robert TORRY with no wife in 1841,


1841  HO107/644/2  f.12  p.16   Sibsey
Higher Fenside

TORRY
Robert     55     
Robert     12
John          8          All born Lincolnshire


 
There are these baptisms in Sibsey with parents Robert and Mary,

20 Jun 1819  Elizabeth TORRY
21 Jan 1821  Martha TORRY
29 Dec 1822  Clark TORRY
29 Aug 1824  Henry TORRY
04 Feb 1827  Frederick TORRY
16 May 1830  Robert TORRY

so was Robert married before to another Mary? I can't find that marriage or a burial for an earlier Mary TORRY so did Mary WARNER/MORGAN just live with Robert TORRY before thay married. It must have been a very hard life to bring up a child alone then.


Maybe when George's sentence ran out he told Mary he wasn't coming back or when he didn't come back she thought he had died, so freeing her to marry Robert. Divorce was quite uncommon then but I've seen quite alot of remarriages when the original spouse was still alive, bigamy was more common than people think and there was the seven year rule.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigamy_Act_1603


http://books.google.com/books?id=Ubk3AAAAMAAJ&printsec=titlepage&lr=#v=onepage&q=bigamy&f=false   


see pages 457 & 458  section LXX.  the other sections also make interesting reading.


Regards,
Daisy



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Re: MORGAN of Wyberton
« Reply #15 on: Friday 23 July 10 16:43 BST (UK) »
My relative's wife Frances Luffman lived with a man at Newark named Hewitt while her husband was in Australia, and had two children with him. In accordance with the then law they were baptised Luffman although they had no relationship to the Luffman family other than their mother had been married to William Luffman for at most 72 hours before his arrest. As she and Hewitt never married, though William died in Australia in 1841 I think this suggests that there was next to no notification to relatives of what had happened to transported prisoners, so far as government was concerned with lifers iot was a case of out of sight, out of mind. Also it should be remembered that much of the population was illiterate, with an extreme class divisionm between the rulers (mostly literate) and the ruled (mostly illiterate) resulting in little scope for communication and the passing of messages etc.
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