Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire

[millerhistory]

Canadian help wanted to find out more about my Gt. Uncle Fred Rothwell aged 24 and Gt. Aunt Annie Rothwell aged 26 in 1912 when the emigrated to Toronto from Newchurch Lancashire England They left Liverpool on 15th March 1912 aboard the “Victorian” destined for Halifax and Toronto.

I know they visited England in 1915 and returned to Toronto in May 1915 but nothing after that.

I have a few postcards they sent to my Grandmother from Toronto. They may have settled there and had family? or moved on, he was a Butcher by trade.

I’d love to find out more and would greatly appreciate any help on how to go about this.

Many thanks

[carol8353]

There 's a 1923 Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A) in Annie's name.Age 37 Husband Fred Rothwell,it says birthplace Waterfoot,England.First arrived in Canada on 24th March 1912,this trip back to England was to visit her parents.
Her home address in Toronto at the time was 597 Woodbine Avenue.

Also says nearest rellie in England father James Caygill? 2 Rockliffe Bacup.

Carol

[millerhistory]

Carol

Many thanks, my home town is Waterfoot so that is her. Would that mean her trip was alone without husband Fred? perhaps her parents were ill. I don't have here unmarried family and parents name so should look that up.
 
How might I follow up your Woodbine Avenue lead? census, voters, births, deaths to find out more about their lives in Toronto?

Thank you

John

[carol8353]

Hopefully someone from Canada will be along soon with info on how to trace them further.

Fred also has a Form 30a(22 July 1923) for the same trip- info virtually the same- he's a farm butcher,his next of kin in UK is his mum,Mrs Rothwell 58 Turnpike Waterfoot .

Carol

[carol8353]

Think this is their marriage?

Marriages Jun 1909   
 
CAYGILL  Annie    Haslingden  8e 282   
 
ROTHWELL  Fred     Haslingden  8e 282   

You should be able to find them here in 1911 then.

Carol

[millerhistory]

Carol

This is great, I've double checked my source, a hand drawn fasmily tree sketch I jotted down from my Grandmother (over 45 years ago) and yes it notes Fred was married to Anny Cagill.

It also shows a note added by my Uncle on a trip over from Australia (over 30 years ago) that adds Fred's Sister Doris born 1884 died Canada no family. So I wonder if an unmarried Doris Rothwell went to join her brother Fred and sister in  law Annie in  Canada?

Would your passenger data have anything for Doris Rothwell?

Thanks

John 

[carol8353]

Yep 

On 21st Nov 1919 Doris Rothwell aged 35 landed in Quebec on the Empress of France , it says she was a domestic and going to visit her brother(no name given!) It does say under religion Wes (Wesleyan?)

I'll see what else I can find.

Carol

[millerhistory]

Carol

Even better, for my first day at serious research. I got some help from the library with access to Ancestry but the computers there were so slow that I have waited until now when I have more time.

I just signed up to RootsChat athis morning and have a trial subscription to Ancestry although not got into that yet.

Where are you getting the passenger data from is it Ancestry or another provider?

Thanks

John

[carol8353]

I have a worldwide subscription to Ancestry which gives me the Canadian stuff that I've found. I also subscribe to Find My Past which you can usually get the outgoing passengers on- but although they have the ship that Doris went out on,they do not seem to have indexed her by name.

There are 42 pages to search through page by page,so that isn't really feasible,and the info often isn't any different than the Ancestry lists anyway.

You need JJ from the Canadian board- he seems to have access to loads of info.

Happy hunting,

Carol