Author Topic: Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire  (Read 3659 times)

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Re: Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire
« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 July 10 16:35 BST (UK) »
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Ok Many thanks

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Re: Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 17 July 10 16:17 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat, John.

This looks like Fred's address in 1921 (472 Pape Avenue):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/097g/   
I choose "Read Online"

If the link works, additional "early" Toronto directories:
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=toronto%20directories
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 17 July 10 16:25 BST (UK) »
Perhaps there were two men living in Toronto with the same name who had the occupation of butcher?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/097h/   
This Frederick Rothwell was born in 1890 in Toronto.

There is one other Frederick Rothwell, but he was born in 1891 (in Lancashire, mother Catherine):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/097i/   
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 17 July 10 17:25 BST (UK) »
If you are interested in seeing old photographs of Toronto (including the area around Yonge and Wilton):
http://www.toronto.ca/archives/photographs/index.htm
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)


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Re: Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 17 July 10 22:48 BST (UK) »
The Pape Av is a possibility, but as you say neither of the Fredericks' dates fit.

Wikepedia says about the Pape Av. area "Historically, the entire area was known as "Todmorden" ... named by John Eastwood, an early settler in the early 19th century, who believed that the landscape was reminiscent of Todmorden in Yorkshire, England."

Spookily I was born in Todmorden Yorkshire which is a few miles from my family home area in Lancashire where Fred and Annie Rothwell lived. Perhaps they chose to settle there because of the name reminded them of home and there were other Lancashire/Yorkshire people there!

I'm amazed by these coincidences or connections?

Many thanks Lisa
Miller, Boardman, Rothwell, Kershaw, Stringer, Longstaff.
Rossendale Lancashire, Cheshire, Walsingham, Norfolk.
Rothwell Toronto Canada
Richard Henry Rothwell East Lancs Reg WW1
Ernest Brereton Kershaw Japanese POW WW2

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Re: Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 17 July 10 23:35 BST (UK) »
John:

I was initially interested in your gt uncle, as one of my Mumford ancestors immigrated to Toronto in 1857 and his occupation was a butcher.  He owned one or two shops in Toronto, but not near where you Fred lived.  There's no connection with your gt uncle; I was just curious about him.

If you might have Fred's exact date of birth, please, it might help if we run across further records.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 17 July 10 23:47 BST (UK) »
I tried an internet search for Frederick Rothwell (born 1890 in Toronto, who stated he was a butcher) and it appears that his father was Alfred Rothwell and Emily Donelly.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/grey1923p2.htm
Frederick Charles Rothwell, age 32, residing at 148 Marguerette, Toronto, married Grace May Pinder, 19 September 1923.

Maybe your Frederick didn't remain in Toronto?
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 12:48 BST (UK) »
You could look at http://pagesofthepast.ca/  (Toronto newspapers)

http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/search.php - there are a Fred and an Annie Rothwell indexed here as at Toronto Necropolis, no other clues to say if they're the right pair or not (you'd have to ask for the full info).
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Re: Toronto Annie and Fred Rothwell arrived 1912 from Lancashire
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 15:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you for finding the links


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