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Edward Davia/Davis/Davies????
« on: Friday 16 July 10 12:59 BST (UK) »
In the 1871 Census Edward is transcribed as follows:


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I'm hoping someone can find him in the 1861 census and find out his wifes name for me please,
If not in Liverpool could be Wales but I'm not sure..he was listed as Widower in 1871 census.
Susannah Coates (nee Lewis) , husbands name would also be appreciated, she is also listed as Widow in 1871 census.

thank you Debbie Hughes
 
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Astley, Barton, Charnley, Clayton, Fox, Hoole/hool, Jolly, Knagg, Lambert, Morley, Spencer, Stevens/Stephens, Tyler, Tyson<br />(Preston and surrounding districts)

Chadwick (Accrington, Ashton-under-lyne) Brodrick (Accrington, Church)

Hughes, Freeman, Plowman (Great Gidding - Huntingdonshire)

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Re: Edward Davia/Davis/Davies????
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 July 10 13:54 BST (UK) »
Hi,

This looks like it could be his wife and sons:

Gop Farm, Newmarket Flintshire
Thomas Lloyd, Head, M, 63, Farmer of 298 acres employing 6 labourers 1 boy, Flintshire Miliden?
Jane Lloyd, Wife, M, 59, Farmers wife, Flintshire
ELIZABETH DAVIES, Daur, Mar, 32, House Keeper, Flintshire Newmarket
Henry Lloyd, Son, U, 29, Bailif, Newmarket
John Lloyd, Son, U, 27, Carter, Newmarket
Thomas Lloyd, Son, U, 26, Carter, Newmarket
Mary Jones, Serv, U, 21, Dairymaid, Newmarket
Margret Williams, Serv, U, 24, House Servt, Newmarket
Robert Jones, Serv, U, 49, Carter, St. Asaph Flintshire
Peter Jones, Serv, U, 21, Carter, Newmarket
Samuel Roberts, Serv, 17, Carter, Newmarket
Thomas DAVIES, Serv, 14, Carter, Newmarket
John Ryles, Serv, U, 26, Cowman, Newmarket
William Jones, Serv, U, 14, Under Cowman, Newmarket
WILLIAM DAVIES, G Son, 9, Scholar, Newmarket
EDWARD DAVIES, G Son, 5, Scholar, Newmarket
THOMAS DAVIES, G Son, 2, Newmarket


I wonder if son in law was being used loosely on the 1871 census? 

Regards,
Mo
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Re: Edward Davia/Davis/Davies????
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 July 10 13:57 BST (UK) »
Hi

Possible marriage for Susannah Lewis:-

Sep 1869 Liverpool 8b 495
Ann Bagot
George Coates
Susannah Lewis
Thomas Rowe

www.freebmd.org.uk

Luzzu
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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire

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Re: Edward Davia/Davis/Davies????
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 July 10 13:58 BST (UK) »
Luzzu, She did have a son George T Coates, so that seems a good possibility,
thank you
Debbie
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Astley, Barton, Charnley, Clayton, Fox, Hoole/hool, Jolly, Knagg, Lambert, Morley, Spencer, Stevens/Stephens, Tyler, Tyson<br />(Preston and surrounding districts)

Chadwick (Accrington, Ashton-under-lyne) Brodrick (Accrington, Church)

Hughes, Freeman, Plowman (Great Gidding - Huntingdonshire)


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Re: Edward Davia/Davis/Davies????
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 July 10 14:00 BST (UK) »
Just had a quick look for George's death but can't see anything obvious.

Luzzu
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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire

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Re: Edward Davia/Davis/Davies????
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 July 10 15:18 BST (UK) »
Luzzu,
in 1871, she has two children with her, Emily (8yrs) and Francis (11 Months) so based on the wedding date of 1869, Emily may have been Georges Daughter from a previous marriage, or Susannahs daughter, who took on the Coates surname. George T Coates was 10 in 1881, so he must have been born after the 1871 census. So if George was the father, he must have died around 1870-71. Emily and Francis are not with Susannah in 1881, I wonder what happened to them?

Debbie
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Astley, Barton, Charnley, Clayton, Fox, Hoole/hool, Jolly, Knagg, Lambert, Morley, Spencer, Stevens/Stephens, Tyler, Tyson<br />(Preston and surrounding districts)

Chadwick (Accrington, Ashton-under-lyne) Brodrick (Accrington, Church)

Hughes, Freeman, Plowman (Great Gidding - Huntingdonshire)

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Re: Edward Davia/Davis/Davies????
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 July 10 15:41 BST (UK) »
Mo,
if this is Elizabeth (nee Lewis) how could she be the daughter of Thomas & Jane Lloyd?
The elizabeth Lewis I have married a William Stevens, not Edward Davies, I wonder if it should have been brother-in-law, not son-in-law maybe I need to find out if Ann Lewis, who married John Lewis (Parents of Elizabeth Lewis) is Ann Lloyd...we shall see....!!!!




Hi,

This looks like it could be his wife and sons:

Gop Farm, Newmarket Flintshire
Thomas Lloyd, Head, M, 63, Farmer of 298 acres employing 6 labourers 1 boy, Flintshire Miliden?
Jane Lloyd, Wife, M, 59, Farmers wife, Flintshire
ELIZABETH DAVIES, Daur, Mar, 32, House Keeper, Flintshire Newmarket
Henry Lloyd, Son, U, 29, Bailif, Newmarket
John Lloyd, Son, U, 27, Carter, Newmarket
Thomas Lloyd, Son, U, 26, Carter, Newmarket
Mary Jones, Serv, U, 21, Dairymaid, Newmarket
Margret Williams, Serv, U, 24, House Servt, Newmarket
Robert Jones, Serv, U, 49, Carter, St. Asaph Flintshire
Peter Jones, Serv, U, 21, Carter, Newmarket
Samuel Roberts, Serv, 17, Carter, Newmarket
Thomas DAVIES, Serv, 14, Carter, Newmarket
John Ryles, Serv, U, 26, Cowman, Newmarket
William Jones, Serv, U, 14, Under Cowman, Newmarket
WILLIAM DAVIES, G Son, 9, Scholar, Newmarket
EDWARD DAVIES, G Son, 5, Scholar, Newmarket
THOMAS DAVIES, G Son, 2, Newmarket


I wonder if son in law was being used loosely on the 1871 census? 

Regards,
Mo
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Astley, Barton, Charnley, Clayton, Fox, Hoole/hool, Jolly, Knagg, Lambert, Morley, Spencer, Stevens/Stephens, Tyler, Tyson<br />(Preston and surrounding districts)

Chadwick (Accrington, Ashton-under-lyne) Brodrick (Accrington, Church)

Hughes, Freeman, Plowman (Great Gidding - Huntingdonshire)

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Re: Edward Davia/Davis/Davies????
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 July 10 16:09 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have just been trying to work it out myself.  I can tell you that the Elizabeth Davies in that 1861 census was married to an Edward.  They are together with the Lloyd family on the 1851 census.

Mo
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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Edward Davia/Davis/Davies????
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 July 10 10:23 BST (UK) »
Mo, how did you find them in the 1851 census...I can't....
Help please...!!!
regards
Debbie
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Astley, Barton, Charnley, Clayton, Fox, Hoole/hool, Jolly, Knagg, Lambert, Morley, Spencer, Stevens/Stephens, Tyler, Tyson<br />(Preston and surrounding districts)

Chadwick (Accrington, Ashton-under-lyne) Brodrick (Accrington, Church)

Hughes, Freeman, Plowman (Great Gidding - Huntingdonshire)