Holyhead Burnal/Burnall/Burnel/Burnell

[Blodynbach]

Well, all was well untill 1881, when there was a Thomas living with the Jones' in Baptist St, and with the same family in 1891 living in Thomas St. The census says he's single.
But, our Thomas was, on both occaisions living with Jane and the children. In 1881 in Porth y Felin, and in 1891 in Liverpool. So I don't think John & Margaret were our Thomas' family.
However, I was in Maeshyfyrd on Saturday, and came accross what I'm hoping is another lead. If the family I'm following now has a Thomas that could be ours, I'll let you know, and fill you in on the details   

[cae howell]

I have found Jonathan Burnal 's grave hope its your relative he is buried at the Capel Bethel (b) Edmond Street Holyhead death 1875 aged76  also there is Jane daughter of R & M Lewis  Bryngwyn hope that will help you there is another grave there with a JaneBurnal daughter of  Robert Burnal died 1852 if you check with the chapel administrator they might help to fill in some gaps for you the  old chapel books are kept in Bangor and aberystwyth good luck

[Draigcoch]

That is fantastic, thank you for that Cae Howell we will certainly look into this further, as  one of us lives nearby Holyhead, not a problem I'm sure.

[Amlodhi]

Hi Cae
Little doubt that this is the correct guy - fantastic piece of work there!  Many, many thanks for your help - we owe you a few beers!
Amlodhi

[cae howell]

If you enter the cemetary via Edmond Street walk down towards the wall near Upper baptist Street the grave  of  Jane Burnall  which is half way down second row left side   Jonathans grave is toward the wall   behind Janes grave hope that helps

[Amlodhi]

Again, Cae, this is really helpful.  I think Draigcoch, Blodynbach and I will be looking very closely at the chapel records when we next visit Holyhead (me, hopefully, in May or thereabouts).  However, Blodynbach lives very near Holyhead so may be able to get there sooner.
Something of interest I've just uncovered: the present Capel Bethel was founded in 1895 which is a bit late for the interment of Jonathan Burnal in 1875.  Do you happen to know if there an earlier chapel of the same name on the site? 
Amlodhi

[cae howell]

I believe there was another chapel  built there before this building and before that they met opposite Pump Street in the fields there the chapel have no old books they are deposited in Bangor but you  never know someone might help you. You could contact Bangor University ask  them about the books  you can do this on line hope that helps

[Amlodhi]

That's interesting - hopefully we will be able to trace other members of the Burnal family there.  Looks like a trip to the Bangor Record Office is in order!

[Blodynbach]

Many thanks to Cae Howell for the info I'll try and pop there on Saturday. I didn't even realize that there was cemetary there!

I think I've found Thomas' family. Might be a bit long winded so I apologize. His parents were John & Anne. John was a small ware dealer born In Flint c1820. Anne was born Caernarfon c1809. I have them living in Swift Sq Holyhead in 1851.

I lose the family then.....but in 1871, John pops up married to Catherine and living in 26 Market St. By 1881 they'd moved to Birmingham House, and were still there on the 1901 census. By then John had died, and Catherine was 71 years old.
It looks as though Catherine had been married previously to a Mr Harding and had a son William.
She and John had 4 sons...Jonathan (c1857) Robert (c1858) John (c1861) & Samuel/ Lemual (c1863).
Thomas had 3 brothers (upto 1851 anyway) John (c1837) Edward (c1844) & William (c1846).

So it looks as though the 'Curly Jack' connction was right...except that John Snr died in 1898....and my grandfather remebered being taken to the shop by his grandmother (Jane )  to see him...so it must have been one his uncles.

Anyway, I'm going to the archives again on Tuesday, do some more 'digging'.