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Re: Laugharne family - Swansea
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 29 July 10 21:21 BST (UK) »
Dear Morgan

I thought you'd be interested in what I have found since you pointed me in the direction of the Cambrian.  We both suspected that Evangeline was a bit of a naughty lady but I'm not sure that was the case, I think she was more likely an innocent party.

Of the two court cases one involved a case of malicious damage against an Ann Burns who had broken two pains of glass in the window of the Prince Royal public-house.  Evangeline gave evidence.  (The court transcript - hand written - refers to the Prince Royal being the dwellinghouse of Evangeline although this isn't referred to in the newspaper article).

The other court case was the theft by a Thomas Brown of three silver watches, two gold rings and 22s 2d in money from the dwelling of Evangeline Jenkins at Landore.  He was sent down for three months.

It is interesting that some two years earlier Alfred Jenkins died at the Alma Pub which was his residence and then in 1888 Evangeline appeared to own (or tenant) a pub in Morriston and have a house in Landore (2.5 miles away).

Is there any way we can research this?

Bilham

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Re: Laugharne family - Swansea
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 31 July 10 21:52 BST (UK) »
Hello

I realised that Evangeline was a witness in the court case rather than the accused.  :)

The Alma Inn is still at Landore:
10 Bennett Street, Landore, Swansea SA1 2QH

but I'm not sure about the Prince Royal unless it's the Old Prince Inn at Clyndu Street. (Not that I'm an expert on pubs in that area!)

Morriston Camera Club have some old photos of the town on their site, and there are contact details on their members page. They may be able to help.

http://www.morristoncameraclub.btinternet.co.uk/homepage.htm

Best Wishes
Morgan

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Re: Laugharne family - Swansea
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 01 August 10 00:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Morgan

For your interest, Eva seems to have been wronged left right and centre!

I've now followed her to Northumberland where she met and moved in with Thomas Thornton.  She later married him but he turned out to be married to someone else! I'm tracing the court case with a very helpful rootschater with connections up there.  We've got details of the initial hearing but not any subsequent one.  (They eventually married "properly" having moved to Sheffield).

Thanks for the info about the Alma etc, I'll contact the camera club.

All the best and thanks for your continuing interest.

Bilham

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Re: Laugharne family - Swansea
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 21 August 10 21:59 BST (UK) »
I am fascinated by this thread as I have done quite a bit of research on the Laugharne family of Dinas and Newport, Pembrokeshire, some of whom were my maternal ancestors.

It seems to me that a bit of confusion is creeping in here because there were 3 William Laugharnes born in the North Pembs area within a few years of each other. You say in your original posting that your William Laugharne was born in Fishguard in 1819. There is indeed a William Laugharne who was a mariner who was born in Fishguard around that time. You can check out more details of his career at sea on http://www.welshmariners.org.uk.

Now the William Laugharne, corn merchant, at 39 Underhill St, Swansea on the 1881 Census was, I'm fairly certain, the son of Thomas and Mary Laugharne from Bwlchmawr in Dinas. My reason for thinking this is because in 1884 that there is an entry in the wills index  at the PRO to the effect "Personal estate of Mary Laugharne, wife of Thomas Laugharne, late of Bwlchmawr in the Parish of Dinas Pambs who died 16th November 1866 at Bwlchmawr was proved at Carmarthen by William Laugharne of 39, Charlton Terrace Swansea, Gla, corn merchant the son the surviving executor. Probate being granted under certain limitations". Why he was so late presenting this will is another story..... I have never been able to find a baptism record for him, so I would be interested to know if anyone else has.

There's a third William Laugharne, also a mariner, who was born in Newport in 1819. He was baptised at Ebenezer chapel in Newport and was the son of John and Eleanor Laugharne of Pant in Neport. He is also listed on http://www.welshmariners.org.uk. He married an Eleanor Griffiths in Newport on 28th Nov 1845 and I have baptisms for two of his sons in Newport and a lot more information about the Pant branch of the family, if you do find this is the right one.

I think this all needs a lot more unpicking. Why did all these people insist on having the same names  :-[ . I'm wondering if the shipmaster Laugharne, living at no 40 Underhill St was the one that you want and that Alfred and Evangeline were being put up next door for some reason. After all it says "visitor" rather than daughter by Evangeline's name.... just a thought.

I'm copying this to the Pembrokeshire list as I see that some of the thread is on there as well.

Good luck

Vivien


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Re: Laugharne family - Swansea
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 21 August 10 23:32 BST (UK) »
 :)Hey Vivien, thanks for the info.  I'm just packing for hols so will look at all this when I get back.  Why can't we have a law banning the use of the same names!!

Bilham