Author Topic: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 8 Episode #1: - Bruce Forsyth  (Read 51544 times)

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Re: Who Do You Think You Are 8 - Bruce Forsyth
« Reply #108 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 12:28 BST (UK) »
I've just tried looking for Joseph F Johnson in the 1901 ... there's ten of them... plus lots of Joseph Johnson without the F !

Trouble is, I can't rememebr names of any of the rest of the family he might have been with on census night in 1901 to narrow it down ... I was watching at a friends house and we were chatting at the same time !
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Re: Who Do You Think You Are 8 - Bruce Forsyth
« Reply #109 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 12:42 BST (UK) »
Wasn't he supposed to be dead (died at sea) by then - hence the reason no one bothered to search for him on the 1901 census.

Wasn't he in America in 1901?
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Re: Who Do You Think You Are 8 - Bruce Forsyth
« Reply #110 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 12:44 BST (UK) »
I thought they found a record of him sailing BACK to the US in 1903 ... thus he was here (probably) in 1901 ??  Thats how I understood it anyway ... but as I said ... my friend was chatting !
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
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Durham: Law(e)
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Re: Who Do You Think You Are 8 - Bruce Forsyth
« Reply #111 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 12:45 BST (UK) »
He did travel back to New York in 1903.  

I suppose if there were ten Joseph Johnsons it would have been difficult to work out which is the right one unless one said gardener ;D ;D  so they didn't mention it
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Re: Who Do You Think You Are 8 - Bruce Forsyth
« Reply #112 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 12:57 BST (UK) »
I've just tried looking for Joseph F Johnson in the 1901 ... there's ten of them... plus lots of Joseph Johnson without the F !
11 exact matches
but they are all with wives or as son of

we know his daughter Christina didnt know anything about his double life from her diary
he returned to the UK in 1895 for 1 month and again in 1899 and went back to the US in 1903 so in theory he should be on the 1901 census.

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Re: Who Do You Think You Are 8 - Bruce Forsyth
« Reply #113 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 13:03 BST (UK) »
If he didn't want to be found in 1901- maybe he fibbed  ;D
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Re: Who Do You Think You Are 8 - Bruce Forsyth
« Reply #114 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 13:07 BST (UK) »
I thought I'd read somewhere that Bruce had thought it was his great grandfather who had forsythia named after him but that turned out to be untrue.

Sorry - can't remember where I read it.

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It was William Forsyth that has the Forsythia named after them - back one more generation.

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Re: Who Do You Think You Are 8 - Bruce Forsyth
« Reply #115 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 14:34 BST (UK) »
I understand the criticism of only following one line, but I thought the entire point of the episode for Bruce Forsyth was to either prove or disprove a family story - that Joseph Johnson was a bigamist?

Admittedly I missed the first 15 minutes so don't actually know where this 'letter' came from.
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Re: Who Do You Think You Are 8 - Bruce Forsyth
« Reply #116 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 15:12 BST (UK) »
Well, my claim to fame is that my 2xgreat grandfather, Henry Mason, was living a few doors away from Joseph F Johnson in Gilling in 1861. His next door neighbour, William Warters, is probably distantly related to me as well! Yes, I know Gilling was a small place, but you have to grasp at these things!!

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